27 responses to “A Few Relevant Posts on “Glee””

  1. Matthew Smith

    One here from Wheelie Catholic (a quad, not a dancer but formerly a tennis player).

  2. Sarah

    I wrote about it here:


    Thanks for all of the links. It’s great to see disability rights-minded commentary after reading clueless fan commentary at sites like Television Without Pity. (Ugh.)

  3. Wolfie

    thanks for all this, i saw the episode last night, and my jaw dropped.

  4. Kaz

    Thank you for the linkage!

    Also! Linkspam. We go looking for links so you don’t have to! 😉

  5. meloukhia

    I have so much admiration for the access_fandom linkspammers. Y’all really do rock. (Especially since I know you actually read the links and some of them are pretty awful.)

  6. The Goldfish

    Another great post is Terri’s at Barrier, Bridges and Books My Hopes for Glee

  7. taiamu

    What sort of burned my butt about this ep (among other things), is the use of a disability as a ‘free ticket’ to a job. I’m currently unemployed, and have an invisible disability (although I’ve been told it’s noticeable if you know what you’re looking for). A ton of things go through my head during an interview: “Should I mention it? Should I not? Will I be discriminated against if I do?”

    It horrified me that Finn (with Rachel’s help) could get a job by /faking/ a disability and waving the ADA around. That’s not how it works, people! Grrr…

    Just had to get that off my chest. :)

  8. Sarah

    Oh, it was just the general attitude of “look how inclusive this show is being now” on the forums. Because giving minor roles to two actors with disabilities completely negates the show’s ableism, and the fact that the show’s main disabled character is played by a non-disabled actor.

  9. taiamu

    Anna, did I just stick my foot in my mouth here? If I somehow did, I’m deeply sorry. I was expressing anger at Glee, so if I offended anyone, I apologize deeply :(

  10. taiamu

    No problem. :) We’re good. And I just want to say that I really appreciate this blog. It’s nice to have a place where I /can/ discuss these things, and get other opinions! :)

  11. amandaw

    I’ve struggled with the disability-employment thing and suffice to say I hide my disability as much as humanly possible when I’m interviewing. Because ADA or not, you can’t guarantee someone won’t have latent biases, won’t make assumptions, won’t think that you’ll be less productive, whatever, and write you off for it. Like hell it’s possible to sue for that, either.

    It’s flagrantly offensive to put up like disability is somehow a hand UP in obtaining a job. It’s just so contrary to reality, so out of bounds that even in fiction it’s so outrageous as to completely kill suspension of disbelief. Ugh.

  12. meloukhia

    Adding to the chorus of “faking a disability to get a job is so unrealistic.” Because, well, it is. Revealing disability status is actually a great way to *not* get a job, since although employers are legally barred from discriminating on ability status, they can find other reasons you “aren’t a good fit” for the job. And of course no employer would be foolish enough to say “we didn’t hire you because of your disability/ies.”

  13. Kaz

    I’m blushing over here now, you know!

    And yes yes yes about faking disability to get a job. I waffled about getting diagnosed for AS for *years* before finally doing it because I was so worried about being discriminated against, and the To Disclose Or Not To Disclose question re: stuttering will probably follow me around in perpetuity. (It’s tricky because it’s very likely the stuttering will become immediately apparent in the job interview, but I don’t know if springing it on them as a surprise in the interview will lead to more or less discrimination than telling them in advance.) *Better* chances at a job because of disability? You really have to wonder if these people are inhabiting the same plane of existence as the rest of us.

    Also, I have to complain about TWoP myself. Someone quoted part of the post on my DW, and… well. They suggested that TWoP only meant to mock Tina’s /faking/ of the stutter and not the actual stutter, but writing stuff like this is simply not cool:

    “For yes, gentle reader, Artie and T-T-T-Tina are having a playful little wheelchair date through the halls of the now-empty school, but it ends badly when T-T-T-Tina screws up her courage to admit she’s simply Single-T Tina.”

    Especially, you know, given that imitating the way we speak is one of the most common ways people make fun of us.

  14. MK

    The “being disabled makes it more likely someone will hire you!” myth reminded me very strongly of the “minorities have an unfair advantage in the job market!” myth. “Minorities” referring to people of color, though I’ve never heard someone who made this claim use the term POC.

  15. Kaz

    This makes me :(. (And thank you for checking so I didn’t have to!)

    But, you know, stuttering is totally fine and dandy and an excellent excuse to get out of doing things. You won’t be discriminated against, ridiculed, humiliated, etc. at *all*.

  16. Sarah

    This thread is reminding me why I don’t read TWoP recaps much anymore. The site is such a cesspool of hipster ableism/fatphobia/other isms.

  17. Este Yarmosh

    I’ll admit I haven’t watched this episode of “Glee” yet, but I’m anxious to so that I can critique it in my own mind, and for my own purposes as a person w/ a disability (I don’t mean write about it, though). Anyway, in regards to the multitude of supporting characters with disabilities suddenly appearing on “Glee,” I think that maybe the people behind “Glee” should focus on quality over quantity. In other words, they should choose fewer characters with disabilities so they have a chance to flesh them out into rounded, or three-dimensional, characters, instead of leaving them as sketchily-drawn caricatures of us; that’s what it sounds like they’re doing, anyhow. Also, I read that the supporting female character with Down’s won’t be a recurring role — that’s too bad; it’s another missed opportunity to flesh out a disabled character. BTW, does the actress who plays the character with Down’s have a disability?

  18. Sasha_feather

    This post has been included in a linkspam at Access_fandom. Thank you!

  19. Jesse the K

    Fed up with GLEE?

    Let the world know! Take one talking point from this discussion and lay it out for readers here. Some hints:
    Don’t flame: these readers won’t have any context.
    Provide the context, connect the lines.
    Don’t drop links; most open forum sites like these suppress linky posts as a spam-control measure.






  20. meloukhia

    Another thing I would love see people adding to those discussions is the fact that disability activists have been criticizing Glee since the pilot aired, as Anna has discussed in previous posts on this topic. The mainstream media is acting like we’ve gotten riled up all of a sudden, and that’s simply not the case! We’ve been riled all along, it’s just that no one listened until now.