16 responses to “Outrageous pre-existing conditions”

  1. K

    Even a relative who works in the health insurance industry thinks that pre-existing condition clauses are ridiculous. Admittedly, one could argue that she’s biased because I have pre-existing conditions that are entirely genetic (and therefore only my fault if you want to say I should’ve known better than to be born with that set of genes – how dare I?) and she’s seen how much lack of care can really mess with my entire life. (I mean, with appropriate treatment, I’m more or less able to live a ‘normal’ life for an adult. I could work a normal week with minimal restrictions, have a social life, participate in community functions or volunteer, etc. Without it, I sometimes end up spending a week or more at a time basically stuck in bed, not able to work or contribute to the community – it probably costs MORE to not treat me, if you look at it in a global sense, than to provide treatment so that I can work and pay taxes and so on.)

  2. J

    yes, pre-existing condition clauses are all unjust. however, i find the C-section clause particularly outrageous. why? because far from being a drain on society, the stereotypical reason on this issue to discriminate, women who are giving birth are continuing the human race. we should be rewarded for that on principal, not be punished for it.
    any thoughts?

  3. Chally

    Yes J, but do you understand how that positions pre-existing conditions clauses for PWD as perfectly okay, that we’re not contributing to the human race but are merely a drain on society?

  4. Kali

    As a person with Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, I am in perpetual fear of losing my health insurance. Once I were to lose it, it would be a very fast slide downhill – without my medications, I cannot function. Without functioning, I could not go to school. Without school, I would not have the student loans I live on. Without the student loans, my boyfriend and I could not afford the house we live in.

    So on and so forth. Losing my health insurance would have devastating consequences.

    And yet, it would take so little to lose it. As a matter of fact, at this exact moment, because of a bureaucratic error, I have no health insurance. It will only be for a week or two, but it’s a terrifying image of what-could-be.

    ~Kali
    http://www.brilliantmindbrokenbody.wordpress.com

  5. stacy

    I’m there with you. I was just denied twice this last month for health insurance because my asthma is a pre-existing condition. So, um, I literally don’t deserve to breathe? That’s what these insurance companies are saying? I’m currently waiting for my next rejection, and wondering how I’m going to be able to afford my medicine for the next year even if they do accept me–if I am accepted, I’ll still have no coverage for the most important things for a year. My meds cost as much as my rent–there’s no way I can afford them on a regular basis (which is why I haven’t had them for the last six months in the first place).

    I saw an op-ed today that suggests that Congress should lose their health insurance if they can’t get reforms together by the end of this session. I’m all for that.
    .-= stacy´s last blog ..Tu Publishing update, anthology contest =-.

  6. meloukhia

    stacy, have you looked into your state’s high risk insurance pool? It’s not a great option, but if you are being repeatedly denied coverage, at least you will get some insurance which they can’t deny you or boot you out of. Also a fellow asthmatic currently surviving on free samples of meds handed out like candy by drug reps at my doc’s office…have you swung by a local clinic to see if they have samples (at least of rescue inhalers!) they can give you as a stopgap?

  7. Fe

    I couldn’t agree with you more. It is OUTRAGEOUS to imply that some pre-existing conditions are worse than others. And the fact that anyone can be discriminated against for being the victim of domestic violence OR being the victim of a mental illness … well it makes me sick to my stomach.

    God I hope Obama’s health care reforms get through.

    I’m watching from half a world away, but, as a survivor of cancer and a sufferer of depression, I cannot fathom living in a first world country which would deny me medical care when I am most vulnerable. The same thing would happen to me, here in Australia, if I lost my private health insurance, as I have a history of needing very expensive hospitalisation and treatment. I would, however, be able to fall back upon a public health care system which, while not perfect, would allow me top-class care without charge.
    .-= Fe´s last blog ..Breaking the first rule of divorced parenting… =-.

  8. Tria

    Well said. Thank you.

    I suffer from fibromyalgia and hypermobility-type Ehlers-Danlos, and while the research and care for both conditions isn’t great over here, at least I don’t get idiots denying me any care at all. I would hate that. I love your country, but I don’t love its medical and political systems all that much, I’m afraid. Especially not if it means people can get away with horrific discrimination like this…

  9. kitrona

    Geez. Way to go, insurers; first take out the people who REALLY need the care, because *gasp* taking care of them costs too much! Never mind the toll it takes to get people from a “flare”, if you will, with no meds, to someplace approaching a decent quality of life. Now let’s see if we can weed out any of those inconvenient people who were careless enough to have ANYTHING wrong with them. Oh wait, that includes a lot of people you didn’t realize? Guess what, insurers: SO DOES THE FIRST GROUP.

  10. Michael

    I didn’t even think about the ableist implications of pre-existing conditions. Thank you for bringing them to my attention!

  11. LS

    Yes, all pre-existing condition exclusion are outrageous, but I for one find classifying victims of DV as having “pre-existing conditions” especially heinous because — and this is the key bit — it is something inflicted upon them by others. Cancer, allergies, heart disease, chronic pain and the host of other conditions which the insurance industry uses to deny care lack agency. No one ‘deserves’ to have them, but neither has anyone made a decision to cause them, either. Classifying DV as a pre-existing condition is like classifying a non-domestic assault as one.

  12. LS

    Respectfully, amandaw, I disagree. And I’m having trouble putting this into words because I do agree wholeheartedly with your statement: no one deserves to be denied health care for having a medical condition. The thing is, cancer is a medical condition. Acne is a medical condition. (People are outraged over that (over and above denial for any reason)? Really? Eep.) Having been assaulted is not a medical condition. So it’s two sets of outrage at the insurance companires: How dare you deny coverage to people who need it? AND How dare you classify this as a ‘condition’?

  13. Caitlin

    I used to answer phones for CIGNA and I was disgusted to discover that there were conditions or circumstances that could deny people medical coverage and medical care. Born and raised in Nova Scotia and covered by MSI at least even if I’m not working/a student/whatever, I had never come across the existance of pre-existing condition limitations. I found (and find) them completely abhorrent, and whenever the topic comes up all I can think about is how PECLs would deny care to so many of my friends and family – because of asthma, rape, diabetes, cancer, depression, a whole host of things.

  14. karak

    My mother recently convinced me to go and get tested for some autoimmune diseases that run in the family. “Do it while we still have insurance,” she told me. And then I did get the test, and then it came back positive.

    And I realized what a huge fucking mistake that was. I should never get tested–I should never know I’m sick because then I’ll lose my insurance when I get sick and need insurance. NEVER GET TESTED FOR A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION. Even if you think it’s going to kill you–because once you get rejected, the condition is going to kill you anyway. Wait until you think you’ve settled into a long-term career to look for diseases. And if you’re one of the unlucky millions that that will never find that career? Well… no one lives forever, anyway.

    And I think you’re right about the abuse and C-section being someone *I* could be, being someone a “normal” person could be. Normal people might get a C-section or get into a bad relationship. Only freaks, only *those people* end up with lupus or asthma or anxiety disorders. (And I say this with irony, I am one of “those people”).

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