6 responses to “Television: Bloody Torchwood”

  1. kaninchenzero

    There are tests for humanity, you know. Objective and scientifical. Sometimes something with a roughly human shape and born to human parents isn’t actually human. Sometimes something that once was is damaged and becomes other than human.

    It’s best just to look the other way. Let the professionals handle it.

  2. Chally

    I’m currently making my way through Series 2. Thank you for the warning.

  3. Vassilissa

    I’ve blogged about this episode too (here). I’m interested in how we approached this episode from different points of view but found it equally problematic. You approached it as a metaphor for parenting children with disabilities, I approached it as a metaphor for how society responds to mental illness. I think we were both right.

  4. Gillian

    It’s not that I disagree with you regarding how problematic the episode is (and btw, I also went the “mental illness” route rather than the “physical disability” route) – I just think that that’s the point. Torchwood is all about people doing rather nasty horrible things – sometime for good reasons (saving the Earth!) sometimes for bad ones (finding the Doctor, attracting women, being lonely, saving a half-Cyberman girlfriend etc.).

    The show is all about a bunch of people with rather rotten judgement (oh JACK) running about the place and walking a thin line between saving the planet and destroying it. I don’t think we’re supposed to look at them – or their behavior – as a model for anything or anyone, other than the dark humanity often turns to.

    And, unfortunately and horribly, people often ARE unable to deal with mental illness (or physical disability). Parents abandon children, marriages fall apart… it ain’t pretty, it ain’t right, but it’s HUMAN in the same way so many other nasty things are. Torchwood is all about the nasty humanity.

  5. whatsername

    Honestly, I think RTD was just warming up for COE with that episode (and some others, but yes, this one is incredibly, incredibly striking in it’s horribleness). And what I mean is, like COE, it seems to be about how FUCKED UP the world is, and the people in it. I was shocked, and horrified, by the ending for Jonah in this, but like others have pointed out, it was like, jesus christ, some people really would turn their backs because THEY can’t deal and how FUCKED UP is that? I thought there was a real calling out of privilege in that episode. Similar, though not as easy to understand I think, as what he did in COE. Because yes, we all know the first thing people in the leadership would do is start deciding which kids we can honestly do without. And we know they ALREADY DO THIS.

    What is FUCKED UP about both stories though, as much as I do think it’s worth having stories that point out how FUCKED UP our society is in it’s hierarchies of WHO MATTERS is that in both cases the people being exploited (Jonah, and, well, every child on earth, respectively) were turned into plot devices and operated with little to no agency.

    I liked that the stories were told, but I think they could be done MUCH BETTER. Is, I guess, my conclusion.
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