8 responses to “Why “being nice” isn’t enough”

  1. amandaw

    All you have to do is ask.

  2. minna

    I don’t think they can retroactively introduce policies that require compliance without law backing them up because pre-existing contracts? At least, I wouldn’t think so.

    Not that that should stop them including a clause in all future leases, or that they shouldn’t have had it in the first place! But an incentive policy could be almost as helpful, at least if it’s monetary :D ? :D ? :(

    Oh wow, my kingdom for a scent-free policy. Or at least for the scented areas to not ever be a main entrance, and yes I’m looking at you, MYER >:(

  3. Annie

    Personally, I wish we had less legislation and more common sense in society. This is yet another example of why that is not possible. We will have to continue to have hugely imperfect regulations and laws put into place because people use the “we cannot enforce….” cop out. There is no reason why the mall owner cannot enforce an accessibility policy, other than their own reluctance to do so/worry over losing rental income. Sigh.

  4. Kaitlyn

    My university’s the same, Anna – no smoking within 20-odd feet of any door.

    Flouted flouted flouted flouted! And when they do follow the rules, you still have to walk through smoke, because they’ve helpfully put ciggie trash cans at the entrance to walkways and porches.

    The worst case was two guys smoking outside the cafeteria in such a way – think of stone lions guarding stairs to a door – that you had to walk through their smoke. Right by the food. I called them names, they called me what felt like a worse name (gendered insult) and I was terrified. But who to complain to?

  5. codeman38

    @Kaitlyn: GAH. Same here. There’s a no-smoking policy within some distance of buildings that I can’t recall. People smoke right in front of the entrances anyway. Sometimes, even, right in front of the no-smoking sign.

    And while we’re at it, is there any way there could be a no-smoking rule at bus stops? Heck, some businesses actually set up the smoking area *at* the bus stop. -_-;;

  6. Norah

    Our trainstations have ‘smokingpillars’ now, basically the only spots at the trainstation where you can smoke, they look like pillars with a cigarette sign onthem and a hole in them which is the ashtray. People still smoke everywhere, but at least they did stop smoking in trains. It was tested on some TVshow, if anything was done when people smoke outside of the pillar area. I think it showed they did something some of the time, but not nearly all of the time.

    Scent-free sounds like more than just smoking though. Too many people seem to think you need to be able to smell their perfume/aftershave from 10 meters away.
    If scent-free refers only to smoking that’s way too abstract for me to have got it on my own.

  7. abby jean

    while i definitely agree that it is important to have guidelines and safe spaces for those who require scent-free environments and who are triggered by cigarette smoke, i also want to make sure we’re not demonizing the group of smokers as a whole. (i haven’t seen anyone do that yet, but i’m wary that the comments may be moving in that direction. i know that smoking is much more prevalent among people with mental illness (see, for example, this link for a variety of theories and explanations) and i think we need to be mindful of the difficulty and necessity of accommodation both smoking and a need to be free from smoke.

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