24 responses to “Disabled & Sick: We’ll Manage”

  1. Kaitlyn

    There’s not much to do, but manage, I guess.

    How often do you want to give up (not commit suicide) but just stop fighting it? I have a good relationship with my mom and I want to be back in the days of yore when moms made everything better.

    I tried radiation for my thyroid (graves/hyperactive) before getting it taken out. My sister had to stay at my dad’s for the weekend – she was 11. My mom was allowed to be around me – are you cleared to be around Don?

    (Radiation medicine was freaky – the nurses are practically in hazmat suits, the precious pill is in cotton and, “Here. Put this in your body.” Oh, and how sick the drive back was. Yes, major parkways are just as twisty as a back road! Who knew?)

    My sympathies when it comes to thyroid messes. I know this may seem obvious, but ask Don to keep an eye on his calcium as well – sometimes the parathyroids can be messed up as well – mine were the “size of pencil erasers” because of the swelling of the thyroid.

    Oh, here comes my chance to show off some internet larnin’ – “I’m sorry, that sounds terrible.”

  2. kaninchenzero

    I love you. You’re both wonderful. I’m so sorry things are so hard. How could anyone be expected to manage all that? But they’re so blithe. Chipper. Upbeat. Positive.

  3. lilacsigil

    *waves to Don*

    I also had thyroid cancer, and while I wouldn’t describe it as a disability in itself, it has certainly led me to be disabled – a great deal of that was the long delay in getting a diagnosis, followed by undermedication for my size. Not being able to read fanfic sounds awfully familiar. Oh, and the great heaving sighs at having do a chest X-Ray on someone who doesn’t fit their idea of whatever a perfectly healthy, able-bodied cancer patient should look like (I’m too fat, apparently)! Best of luck to Don and to you with the radiation treatment, and with all the hassle that blithe assumptions of able-bodiedness (and able-mindedness) brings. Either good luck or a mind-control ray.

  4. Annie

    I am completely clueless about… EVERYTHING – I mean, reading footnote 5 I’m thinking, “Oh, but please tell me because I’m CURIOUS”, as if that’s what’s important – SO clueless about things. And even I know not to BABYTALK to someone because they’re in a wheelchair, not to treat a wheelchair like some cumbersome, non-vital object, not to grab at people’s differences. I can’t share your situation or empathise properly but oh, do I feel some of your frustration. Health care workers SHOULD know better.

  5. Evamaria

    It’s simply horrendous how you and Don are treated!

    “Oh, you’ll manage…” As if there’s this magical reserve of strength and ability that you somehow just never bothered to tap into because you’re so negative and defeatist. Agh, it makes me SO ANGRY! (But I guess that’s to be expected. I have a mental illness after all, obviously I have failed positive-thinking class, too.) *sends good thoughts*

  6. Nightengale

    There is no Disability 101 in medical school.

    I am saying this as a person with a disability who is also a doctor.

    What there is instead are senior doctors frequently and usually unconsiouslessly passing on negative, pitying, ridiculing, outdated or otherwise othering attitudes about people with disabilities to their trainees, who then go on to apply those attitudes into their daily practice. Soon, those trainees will be passing on those same attitudes to their trainees, because while doctors often work to keep up with the latest medical advancements in new medications and treatments, no one makes sure they keep up with non-othering attitudes.

    My hope is to work to change this after I’m no longer a trainee myself. I’ve seen glimmers of hope from some of my education attempts so far. But in the meantime it seems to be up to us, people with disabilities, to provide the education. Which, when we are also the patients or the patient’s family, is horridly unfair.

  7. Caitlin

    This is so much DDDDDD: I wish it wasn’t true – but I know it is. It shocks (even though maybe it shouldn’t? /pessimistic) and saddens me to such an extreme that I don’t really know how to describe it.

    If there’s anything I can do, let me know! I’m in Antigonish, so probably not because of distance, but if there is feel free to ask.

  8. Legible Susan

    How awful! And I suppose if you send a letter demanding a hazmat suit for Don’s homecare worker and whoever does the cleaning, or he refuses to leave the hospital because you don’t have suitable facilities at home, they’ll pretend to think you’re taking the piss and treat him even worse. Argh.

  9. sundiszno

    This is just all kinds of wrong. I’m so sorry.

  10. Monica

    even the comments here at FWD include people who have merrily informed one and all that women with my mental health condition are bad

    You know, there is a lot of things in this post that make me think, “WRONG. How can people BE like that?” But this is definitely the wrongest. Because this is supposed to be at least some measure of an accepting space.

    This all really, really sucks on so many levels. I wish I could give you and Don hugs. Provided that both of you find hugs comforting and not painful.

  11. P. G. Dudda

    I am completely 100% in agreement on “medical services not designed to accommodate disabled patients”. I would further add that these same systems are also not designed to accommodate the disabled partner of someone who is otherwise nominally able-bodied.

    Just sharing in the general *headdesk* fest going on here…

  12. Heather Freeman

    I concur with doctors not understanding or accommodating disability; even when it’s the same condition they’re supposed to be treating! I’ve gotten a number of MRIs where I had to argue with the technician that no, really, you need to let me move in between sections or I will be in so much pain you will not be able to get a good image. And inaccessible waiting rooms. And if you dare speak up you’re looked at with that disbelieving stare, nevermind that it took all your remaining resources to gather the strength to speak up at all….

    My sympathies for what you and Don are going through.

  13. liz

    Sending hugs and supportive thoughts.

  14. Marge

    As Nightengale says – there is no Disability 101. I’m a medical student at a medical school that’s considered one of the more progressive, with lots of patient contact and emphasis on communication and patient autonomy. This hopefully should mean that my colleagues are less likely to do some of the more blatantly awful things you encountered, but they still don’t get taught a lot of this stuff. I’ve taken it on to myself to explain the social model of disability in groupwork, but it’s just a drop in the ocean…

    (Oh, and the radio-ablation stuff that you partner is having? Here they keep people in hospital in lead-lined rooms until they’re much less dangerous, so not needing the multiple showers, but still needing to avoid close contact for long periods)

  15. Amanda

    I don’t get why people who belittle ppl with your condition in comments arent moderated out.

  16. meloukhia

    Oh, they are, Amanda, but we still have to see them!

  17. Ms. M

    I want to sympathize with the ogling of the Marfan’s as if Don wasn’t there. As a pre-teen, I had a severe skin condition that led at one point to a month-long stay (without parents of course) at Mayo in MN. It was truly unbelievable how dr’s and residents will ogle and discuss in detail all the “bizarre” symptoms as if the PERSON they are discussing isn’t even there. As an adult I look back at that as one of the biggest medical fails of my convoluted medical history. Being subjected to it repeatedly over a lifetime? Mega-fail for medical personnel!

    Also, I wonder how the heck dr’s can say “Oh, you’ll manage!”. It is such a clear dismissal of patient and caregiver concerns. What the dr. is basically saying is “I don’t want to hear about how hard this is going to be for you”. You’re right, you’ve not fallen into a tiny crack, but a gaping chasm.

    I feel your anger, frustration, and depression over all of this.

  18. Kaitlyn

    “Oh you’ll manage” is the grown-up version of “eat those disgusting vegetables, there are starving kids in Africa.”

    I think there’s an unsaid second part of that – why are you such whiners? Others have it much worse than you!

    I got that when I was in a psych ward. I was miserable, but I “only” had depression. This other girl had it much worse than me, but she didn’t throw “pity parties.” (We know the other girl quite well – yes, she has had a hard life but she’s also smart and knows how to work people.)

    And you don’t have a choice. You have to manage. The pain won’t kill me, I just have to “manage” until I fall asleep or the meds kick in. I wonder if it’s the same people who say, “I’d kill myself if I were in your spot” who also say things like “Oh, you’ll manage.” Because, after all, you have said that you manage with everything, what’s one more thing? Stop kvetching! /bad attempt at sarcasm.

    Mel, anna, everyone who runs the site – I appreciate a safe spot where no one’s going to say, “She’s just doing this for attention, she’s lying.” Where the myriad diseases and disabilities that people have aren’t belittled and I can’t imagine the grody messages you have to read to keep it safe.

  19. solea

    “You’ll manage” reality: sometimes “managing” is almost if not downright impossible.
    “You’ll manage” fantasy: “managing” is *destined*.

  20. Sarah

    Oh, I’m sorry you guys are going through this…I had thyroid cancer and I decided not to do the radioiodine thing (it was caught soon enough that it would have been more of a “just in case” measure) because it would have been too much hassle for two able-bodied people to deal with if we didn’t absolutely have to. At least it’s not as hard on the system as standard radiation therapy.

  21. thetroubleis

    I’m so sorry you have to deal with this crap. One would think doctors and hospitals of all places would have better knowledge of disability, but the fail just keeps piling up.

  22. Meowser

    “You’ll manage” = “you’ll be lost to followup and we won’t have to think about you.” I wish I could say I was surprised at the rank insensitivity you describe here, but I’m not. I’m so sorry you have to have that kind of crap added to what you’re already going through.

    And really, have they never given radioactive iodine treatments to someone who needs daily assistance with ADLs before? That seems incredible to me, considering how many cancer patients are of advanced age and that home care assistance is extremely common in that population. They really ought not to be treating Don’s case like it’s a one-in-a-billion fluke, because it’s anything but. (But of course, even if it was a one-in-a-billion fluke, that would still be no excuse for them being so dismissive about it.)

    Damn.

  23. Kali

    Oh yeah, you have my sympathy. I get to be a freak-show, too. Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome. Hey, Don and I practically have collagen-cousins!

    I’ve gotten used to the various doctors oggling me and asking about all kinds of symptoms that aren’t relevant to what I’m seeing them for. I’ve also gotten QUITE used to snatching my hands out of reach when people go for them. I did manage to startle a doctor once pretty good with that – she was just going to shake my hand and I ended up with my hands balled up against my chest and giving her a terrible glare…in retrospect, it’s kind of funny. In part because she’s one of the only doctors who has never asked about other symptoms of my disorder without a good reason.

    I’m still in the stage where my diagnosis is new enough that I don’t mind telling doctors about the effects, but I do draw the line at showing most of the hypermobility tricks. My joints are trouble enough without me doing that sort of thing and stretching them farther. I only show the elbows, because that’s the most stable joint in my body. (Hah, matter of fact, I had a big episode of this today – I was at my GP, and he had a med student in, who was quite fascinated to actually see someone with EDS. So I talked about it, and how you diagnose it, and why my old GP had missed it, so on. He was very pleasant and started with that thing all of the doctors-in-training should: ‘Do you mind if I ask you some questions and examine you before your regular doctor?’)

    And the doctors who talk about me like I’m not there…well, I’ve kept exactly one of them, and that’s because he doesn’t do it often and he’s polite about it. He’ll ask if I mind him showing his resident/med student/etc whatever body part he wants to demonstrate. And, well, he’s a brilliant doc and a positively lovely person to work with.

    The others, I’ve fired. I don’t mind being used as an example, but I WILL be treated as a person, damn it.

    …I get the curiousity x2, because I have Ehlers-Danlos AND I have a service dog. *facepalm*

    I imagine that by adding thyroid cancer, Don has had a similar multiplication of questions, particularly the unnecessary variety.

    ~Kali

  24. Cesy

    *hugs*
    There’s not much else I can say. I wish there weren’t so much fail in the world.

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