3 responses to ““The Challenge of Mental Illness in the Justice System” – Part 2: Civil Court”

  1. KJ

    I agree that there is a lot of pressure on people with mental illness to agree to go inpatient. I was pretty much unaware at the time of my 2nd hospitalization that I could have said no. I had just turned 18 and with the pressure from my loved ones and therapist, I felt I could not do anything but sign on the dotted line. When I figured out that I was 18 and could get out without the docs agreeing, I signed out AMA. I wonder though, if I had been less savvy about questioning the staff or if the staff had lied, would I have ever realized I was not being kept against my will?
    The question of decision making is really interesting. When I was at the worst period in my illness, I made really, really poor decisions that hurt me. When the power to choose was taken away from me, ‘good’ decisions (or decisions that did not allow me to continue certain harmful behaviors) were made for me. However, I never quite internalized those decisions. And when I wasn’t being forced, I went back to making choices that hurt my body and mind. However, when I was given complete freedom (post hospitalization #2), but also had the support and encouragement of a good therapist to make healing choices, I went for the healing choices most of the time. Not all the time, because I was still struggling. But when I made those choices, I internalized them and kept choosing things that helped me, even when my therapist was not around. I think that forced decisions or decisions under pressure will fail to help the patient.

  2. Laurel

    “On the other lies the tragic reality that the mentally ill cannot make rational decisions.”

    And *that* was when I started swearing at the computer …

  3. Beth

    KJ, I hear you. In one (US) state, I had a lot of trouble with the mental health system. (In another, not so much but that one was enough to make me leery.) I’ve been outright lied to by psychs regarding hospitalization. And I was young, 18 and19. Two psychs lied to me to force me into at least evaluation for a psych hospital, saying that my boyfriend must take me directly to the hospital, that they would call them in advance, and they insinuated that if I didn’t comply, I might well be expelled. (Yes, the school would expel for certain expressions of mental illness. Horrible, but that’s another issue.) At the hospital, I asked the lady at intake… and she said no one had contacted them, that the psychs may not have been truthful.
    And then, another time, there was one psych, state-paid, who cleared me to go home if I wished… but then my boyfriend, who said he’d take me home, took me to his place instead, called my psych who said I needed hospitalization. He took me there, tackling me when I tried to get away. (Come to think of it, as far as I can tell, I was abducted. Never thought of it that way.) At the hospital, I was told I could either sign myself in or they could have me committed. I kind of doubt that, considering the state-paid psych said I could go home, but I was overloaded from the drama and coercion of the day. I felt utterly trapped and may well have been. (The big thing that made me look a danger was the small scar on my neck that I hadn’t intended. I had held something to my neck and made threats specifically so my boyfriend wouldn’t come any closer. Any breaking of skin was accidental.)
    Those times I agree I was mentally ill. That didn’t in the least justify how I was treated or how my choices were removed. (Indeed, I think that was a part of what kept me mentally ill. How is one to behave, feel, and think of oneself as a “normal” person when one is treated so differently, denied that respect, that compassion, that autonomy?) I remember, too, “freedoms” expressed in the hospital. In that jurisdiction, the default is that one may refuse medication. I saw someone exercising this right. Because they did (and only because of this), they were confined to the wing, had every possession removed save the clothes on their back, and a staff member followed them around with the pill cup, hounding them unceasingly. Not ok and the issue of mental illness is superfluous here.
    I’ve also almost been put in a mental hospital for something other than a “purely” mental illness. My neuro-degenerative illness can produce some confusion and memory loss. My neuro was unaware of this (but that’s a different rant) and sent me to psych eval. There, the people wanted to (psych) hospitalize me even though my only symptoms were related to short-term memory loss: no recall beyond a few minutes, trouble keeping on track to a goal (hard when you can’t remember it), and anxiety — which one ought to expect in one who is in unfamiliar surroundings, can’t see the “big picture”, and is being threatened. The only reason I, at 20-some, wasn’t institutionalized was that my parents, over 1000 miles away, made a big fuss and my roommate was willing to say she’d take me home and look after me. (Not that I needed looking after once i was in a familiar setting.) Frighteningly, the state law at that point regarding involuntary commitment included not only danger to self or others but also something about inability to care for oneself. As far as I could tell, with symptoms of an organic illness that hurt no one, I could have been hospitalized indefinitely. The idea shook me to my core. I’m happy to report that the law has since been changed.

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