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		<title>By: Vassilissa</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/03/16/creating-accessible-campuses/#comment-9365</link>
		<dc:creator>Vassilissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From when I was in college: privacy.  I have a moderate to severe mental illness.  I needed accommodation while I was in college because I was failing a lot of my subjects,  and needed not to be kicked out of residence for that (this is Australian halls of residence, not an American style college.)  I got my accommodation, but the dean of the college decided that if she was allowing me to stay on the basis that I was getting treatment for my illness, then she needed to see evidence of progress.  So she brought me into her office for an interview ever week and interrogated me about therapy.  It was one of the most offensive things that ever happened to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From when I was in college: privacy.  I have a moderate to severe mental illness.  I needed accommodation while I was in college because I was failing a lot of my subjects,  and needed not to be kicked out of residence for that (this is Australian halls of residence, not an American style college.)  I got my accommodation, but the dean of the college decided that if she was allowing me to stay on the basis that I was getting treatment for my illness, then she needed to see evidence of progress.  So she brought me into her office for an interview ever week and interrogated me about therapy.  It was one of the most offensive things that ever happened to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaitlyn</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/03/16/creating-accessible-campuses/#comment-9338</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaitlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have &quot;quiet floors&quot; in my dorm, well it used to be floors, now it&#039;s one floor. For the Honors students.

And they don&#039;t enforce it well enough - when my pain is at 9.99999 people walk by my door! /pain exaggeration

In all reality, &quot;quiet&quot; anything is worthless without enforcement. I&#039;ve lived on &quot;quiet&quot; floors all 3 years, and so much random screaming. At night. Bah. While, I, worried they would enforce the rules posted everywhere, actually tested the volume level on my TV by going in the hallway to make sure the whole floor or anyone passing by didn&#039;t have to suffer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have &#8220;quiet floors&#8221; in my dorm, well it used to be floors, now it&#8217;s one floor. For the Honors students.</p>
<p>And they don&#8217;t enforce it well enough &#8211; when my pain is at 9.99999 people walk by my door! /pain exaggeration</p>
<p>In all reality, &#8220;quiet&#8221; anything is worthless without enforcement. I&#8217;ve lived on &#8220;quiet&#8221; floors all 3 years, and so much random screaming. At night. Bah. While, I, worried they would enforce the rules posted everywhere, actually tested the volume level on my TV by going in the hallway to make sure the whole floor or anyone passing by didn&#8217;t have to suffer.</p>
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		<title>By: meep</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/03/16/creating-accessible-campuses/#comment-9336</link>
		<dc:creator>meep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second the request for quiet rooms and or maybe halls in dorms. Also, a meal delivery service from dining halls to dorms for students would be very helpful for various disabilities. We were allowed to order pizzas to be delivered to the dorms but I wouldn&#039;t advise that for every day. Since they do menus so far in advance maybe you could go to a site online or something and choose from the available options for a week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the request for quiet rooms and or maybe halls in dorms. Also, a meal delivery service from dining halls to dorms for students would be very helpful for various disabilities. We were allowed to order pizzas to be delivered to the dorms but I wouldn&#8217;t advise that for every day. Since they do menus so far in advance maybe you could go to a site online or something and choose from the available options for a week.</p>
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		<title>By: codeman38</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/03/16/creating-accessible-campuses/#comment-9314</link>
		<dc:creator>codeman38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, also, on a mental health note-- *multiple* options for contact.

For the longest time, the web site and informational pamphlets for my university&#039;s psych services office claimed that the &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; way to be seen by the office was to do a telephone intake.

I have auditory processing issues that make it very difficult to comprehend unfamiliar voices over the phone. I really did not want to discuss psych issues via relay service-- I was depressed enough already at that time, and a relay call would just be an exercise in frustration for me, the receptionist, &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; the relay operator...

It turns out that they were willing to make an exception and do an in-person intake for people with hearing and speech disabilities. But apparently they had never bothered to mention this little bit of information on their web site or in any of their informational brochures. (It&#039;s since been fixed after I pointed this out to them in a disability advocacy meeting.)

Also, on that note: 24/7 mental health support. I seem to always get most depressed on nights and weekends-- i.e., when all the available resources are closed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, also, on a mental health note&#8211; *multiple* options for contact.</p>
<p>For the longest time, the web site and informational pamphlets for my university&#8217;s psych services office claimed that the <em>only</em> way to be seen by the office was to do a telephone intake.</p>
<p>I have auditory processing issues that make it very difficult to comprehend unfamiliar voices over the phone. I really did not want to discuss psych issues via relay service&#8211; I was depressed enough already at that time, and a relay call would just be an exercise in frustration for me, the receptionist, <em>and</em> the relay operator&#8230;</p>
<p>It turns out that they were willing to make an exception and do an in-person intake for people with hearing and speech disabilities. But apparently they had never bothered to mention this little bit of information on their web site or in any of their informational brochures. (It&#8217;s since been fixed after I pointed this out to them in a disability advocacy meeting.)</p>
<p>Also, on that note: 24/7 mental health support. I seem to always get most depressed on nights and weekends&#8211; i.e., when all the available resources are closed!</p>
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		<title>By: Nightengale</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/03/16/creating-accessible-campuses/#comment-9291</link>
		<dc:creator>Nightengale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Physical accessibility in more than one dormatory setting.  We had an accessible dorm at my undergraduate college  Well, but non-disabled students had a choice of dorms.

Inclusiveness in the student handbook.  At my medical school, the handbook only mentioned testing accommodations for students with learning disabilities.  There was no mention of students with physical disabilities or any acommodations besides those related to exams.

Not requiring recent doctor&#039;s notes for static, long term conditions.  If I couldn&#039;t handwrite an essay in 1999, at the age of 23, chances are pretty good I still can&#039;t handwrite one in 2003 at the age of 27.  But my note was more than 3 years old. 

Listening to the student&#039;s individual need, not &quot;what we do&quot; for a given condition.  People with the same condition may have different needs.

Permitting students to discuss their own disability with professors.  I was told that bringing up my disability and asking what the course would require (so that I could determine whether I would need an accommodation) was in itself an acommodation, and so I would have to go through the accommodation office.  A student should not be required to make a formal request for an accommodation to say to the professor, &quot;I have trouble with handwriting, are there going to be essay exams in this course?&quot; or &quot;I have poor balance, how long do students typically stand up during their clinical experience with you?&quot;

Freedom from ablist comments in the curriculum would be nice, but that may be asking too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Physical accessibility in more than one dormatory setting.  We had an accessible dorm at my undergraduate college  Well, but non-disabled students had a choice of dorms.</p>
<p>Inclusiveness in the student handbook.  At my medical school, the handbook only mentioned testing accommodations for students with learning disabilities.  There was no mention of students with physical disabilities or any acommodations besides those related to exams.</p>
<p>Not requiring recent doctor&#8217;s notes for static, long term conditions.  If I couldn&#8217;t handwrite an essay in 1999, at the age of 23, chances are pretty good I still can&#8217;t handwrite one in 2003 at the age of 27.  But my note was more than 3 years old. </p>
<p>Listening to the student&#8217;s individual need, not &#8220;what we do&#8221; for a given condition.  People with the same condition may have different needs.</p>
<p>Permitting students to discuss their own disability with professors.  I was told that bringing up my disability and asking what the course would require (so that I could determine whether I would need an accommodation) was in itself an acommodation, and so I would have to go through the accommodation office.  A student should not be required to make a formal request for an accommodation to say to the professor, &#8220;I have trouble with handwriting, are there going to be essay exams in this course?&#8221; or &#8220;I have poor balance, how long do students typically stand up during their clinical experience with you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Freedom from ablist comments in the curriculum would be nice, but that may be asking too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/03/16/creating-accessible-campuses/#comment-9282</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That reminds me - I&#039;d really like to see dedicated Professional Development Time for staff &amp; faculty to learn about accommodating disabilities among students, staff, and faculty members.  Or, at a minimum, how to do so for students.  And that it should be offered &lt;em&gt;every year&lt;/em&gt; to incoming TAs.

[My uni, bless, offers this every other year.  I understand why they do that.  But I still want it every year because there&#039;s a need.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That reminds me &#8211; I&#8217;d really like to see dedicated Professional Development Time for staff &#038; faculty to learn about accommodating disabilities among students, staff, and faculty members.  Or, at a minimum, how to do so for students.  And that it should be offered <em>every year</em> to incoming TAs.</p>
<p>[My uni, bless, offers this every other year.  I understand why they do that.  But I still want it every year because there's a need.]</p>
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		<title>By: Kaitlyn</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/03/16/creating-accessible-campuses/#comment-9281</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaitlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet Machine - you want them to communicate with each other? Hahahahaha, it will be quicker for the PWD to walk/wheel said info over and back before they even think of opening up their e-mail program or picking up a phone.

And seconded on the need a doctor&#039;s note. Luckily, they could fax it in, but I still had to go see my PCM. &quot;Still in pain?&quot; They only required it when I spent a month at home on the couch, not at the beginning of each semester, when I have to meet with them and get a sheet of paper for each professor and I never ever remember to make the appointment until school is started...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet Machine &#8211; you want them to communicate with each other? Hahahahaha, it will be quicker for the PWD to walk/wheel said info over and back before they even think of opening up their e-mail program or picking up a phone.</p>
<p>And seconded on the need a doctor&#8217;s note. Luckily, they could fax it in, but I still had to go see my PCM. &#8220;Still in pain?&#8221; They only required it when I spent a month at home on the couch, not at the beginning of each semester, when I have to meet with them and get a sheet of paper for each professor and I never ever remember to make the appointment until school is started&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/03/16/creating-accessible-campuses/#comment-9280</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monica, I wonder if your friend goes to my university.  *cough*

Sweet Machine, yes, exactly.  I may need to draft another email specifically about that.  My understanding at my university is it can take up to 8 weeks to bring in software that students with accessibility needs would require.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica, I wonder if your friend goes to my university.  *cough*</p>
<p>Sweet Machine, yes, exactly.  I may need to draft another email specifically about that.  My understanding at my university is it can take up to 8 weeks to bring in software that students with accessibility needs would require.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Machine</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/03/16/creating-accessible-campuses/#comment-9279</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure the actual technology is very different from when I was in college, but the accessibility issue is probably still relevant: clear and prominent information about any adaptive tech computer labs, what hardware and software is available there, and how one accesses them. Making sure the IT offices and the disability services offices are aware of each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure the actual technology is very different from when I was in college, but the accessibility issue is probably still relevant: clear and prominent information about any adaptive tech computer labs, what hardware and software is available there, and how one accesses them. Making sure the IT offices and the disability services offices are aware of each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/03/16/creating-accessible-campuses/#comment-9267</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a friend currently in law school and disability services won&#039;t even talk to her without a letter from a doctor.  She needs to talk to them to find out what needs to be in the letter from her doctor so that she doesn&#039;t have to go back a second time for a second letter after she has talked to them.  *facepalm*  [Sarcasm:  Way to be accommodating, Disability Services.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend currently in law school and disability services won&#8217;t even talk to her without a letter from a doctor.  She needs to talk to them to find out what needs to be in the letter from her doctor so that she doesn&#8217;t have to go back a second time for a second letter after she has talked to them.  *facepalm*  [Sarcasm:  Way to be accommodating, Disability Services.]</p>
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