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		<title>By: Kaitlyn</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/11/crossing-my-fingers-for-the-future/#comment-6244</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaitlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoB - did you tell the professor?

I was required to read something that was very triggering at a bad time and I told my professor how the reading affected me. I don&#039;t remember what she said, but telling her felt good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoB &#8211; did you tell the professor?</p>
<p>I was required to read something that was very triggering at a bad time and I told my professor how the reading affected me. I don&#8217;t remember what she said, but telling her felt good.</p>
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		<title>By: JoB</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/11/crossing-my-fingers-for-the-future/#comment-6229</link>
		<dc:creator>JoB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t write so many letters... I wrote one to my uni because some of the recommended reading for a psychology course was /horrible/ - talking about schizophrenia in a way which was ignorant and offensive in a way I&#039;m too angry even to explain here. I got a very polite reply back but nothing was ever done about it... the offensive article is still on the course website. 

Otherwise I think (and mostly hope) that my uni is making some efforts... though if all the building work they&#039;ve been doing doesn&#039;t improve accessibility like they said vaguely it will, I may have to start writing again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t write so many letters&#8230; I wrote one to my uni because some of the recommended reading for a psychology course was /horrible/ &#8211; talking about schizophrenia in a way which was ignorant and offensive in a way I&#8217;m too angry even to explain here. I got a very polite reply back but nothing was ever done about it&#8230; the offensive article is still on the course website. </p>
<p>Otherwise I think (and mostly hope) that my uni is making some efforts&#8230; though if all the building work they&#8217;ve been doing doesn&#8217;t improve accessibility like they said vaguely it will, I may have to start writing again.</p>
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		<title>By: Norah</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/11/crossing-my-fingers-for-the-future/#comment-6227</link>
		<dc:creator>Norah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I write these letters too. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever gotten a response beyond a stock email, but I think every now and then I can see results. I think maybe that&#039;s when I wasn&#039;t the only one writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write these letters too. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever gotten a response beyond a stock email, but I think every now and then I can see results. I think maybe that&#8217;s when I wasn&#8217;t the only one writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nightengale</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/11/crossing-my-fingers-for-the-future/#comment-6215</link>
		<dc:creator>Nightengale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I write letters (well, e-mails or &quot;contact us&quot; forms on websites for all sorts of things with mixed results.

I spent four years of medical school writing to individual professors or administration about my own issues of accessibility and acommodations, and of examples of ablism in the curriculum. 

I got responses ranging from &quot;I had no idea and I won&#039;t say that again&quot; to a vague and placating &quot;there, there, that is a problem, isn&#039;t it&quot; with no action ever taken to the usual accusations of whining and taking things too personally.  Heavily weighted towards the accusations of whining and taking things too personally, of course.  But the few victories were glorious, and I kept writing in the hopes that someday, we will raise consiousness enough that the vague placations turn into true change, even if the accusations never progress towards vaguary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write letters (well, e-mails or &#8220;contact us&#8221; forms on websites for all sorts of things with mixed results.</p>
<p>I spent four years of medical school writing to individual professors or administration about my own issues of accessibility and acommodations, and of examples of ablism in the curriculum. </p>
<p>I got responses ranging from &#8220;I had no idea and I won&#8217;t say that again&#8221; to a vague and placating &#8220;there, there, that is a problem, isn&#8217;t it&#8221; with no action ever taken to the usual accusations of whining and taking things too personally.  Heavily weighted towards the accusations of whining and taking things too personally, of course.  But the few victories were glorious, and I kept writing in the hopes that someday, we will raise consiousness enough that the vague placations turn into true change, even if the accusations never progress towards vaguary.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/11/crossing-my-fingers-for-the-future/#comment-6199</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.  I actually meant to come back and apologize for snapping at you - I&#039;m having a busy day and I&#039;m not quite on the ball in terms of reactions.  I&#039;m sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.  I actually meant to come back and apologize for snapping at you &#8211; I&#8217;m having a busy day and I&#8217;m not quite on the ball in terms of reactions.  I&#8217;m sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/11/crossing-my-fingers-for-the-future/#comment-6196</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I accidentally skipped the paragraph that described the patient&#039;s fingers being manipulated without first saying something.  I read the paragraph that stated that a resident was present but not the following one.  It&#039;s protocol that a physician informs a patient of what is going to happen before it does.  That was my error, and I apologize.  I agree that the interaction was inappropriate.   I retract my earlier comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I accidentally skipped the paragraph that described the patient&#8217;s fingers being manipulated without first saying something.  I read the paragraph that stated that a resident was present but not the following one.  It&#8217;s protocol that a physician informs a patient of what is going to happen before it does.  That was my error, and I apologize.  I agree that the interaction was inappropriate.   I retract my earlier comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/11/crossing-my-fingers-for-the-future/#comment-6195</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Codeman!  I didn&#039;t notice (obviously!)

Patrick, the fact that you think that both we were ignorant of supposedly agreeing to being treated like an experiment rather than a person, and that you think even if we had agreed to be treated like an experiment rather than a person than it&#039;s okay to *hurt us* without even a &quot;by your leave&quot; says very sad things about the medical profession as a whole.
&lt;br clear=&quot;both&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Codeman!  I didn&#8217;t notice (obviously!)</p>
<p>Patrick, the fact that you think that both we were ignorant of supposedly agreeing to being treated like an experiment rather than a person, and that you think even if we had agreed to be treated like an experiment rather than a person than it&#8217;s okay to *hurt us* without even a &#8220;by your leave&#8221; says very sad things about the medical profession as a whole.<br />
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		<title>By: codeman38</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/11/crossing-my-fingers-for-the-future/#comment-6194</link>
		<dc:creator>codeman38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason the site in question is inaccessible, incidentally? It&#039;s &lt;em&gt;entirely made in Flash&lt;/em&gt;. Thus, it&#039;s not only screenreader-inaccessible, it&#039;s also inaccessible on an iPhone or iPod Touch or many Android phones, not to mention any phones with less capable web browsers. It&#039;s also inaccessible on platforms that Adobe doesn&#039;t support, such as Linux running on a PowerPC processor.

In fact, here&#039;s how the site appears on the iPhone browser:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://img160.yfrog.com/img160/5257/n9qs.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Error message displayed by the site, telling the user to &quot;update your Flash player&quot; &quot; /&gt;

Of course, the &quot;click to download&quot; link leads to a page telling me that Flash is not available for the device I&#039;m using. I imagine it would work the same way under Linux on my old G4 PowerBook, right down to the &quot;download Flash&quot; link being completely useless.

So in other words, this isn&#039;t just a disability access nightmare. It&#039;s just an accessibility nightmare &lt;em&gt;in general&lt;/em&gt;.
&lt;br clear=&quot;both&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason the site in question is inaccessible, incidentally? It&#8217;s <em>entirely made in Flash</em>. Thus, it&#8217;s not only screenreader-inaccessible, it&#8217;s also inaccessible on an iPhone or iPod Touch or many Android phones, not to mention any phones with less capable web browsers. It&#8217;s also inaccessible on platforms that Adobe doesn&#8217;t support, such as Linux running on a PowerPC processor.</p>
<p>In fact, here&#8217;s how the site appears on the iPhone browser:</p>
<p><img src="http://img160.yfrog.com/img160/5257/n9qs.jpg" alt="Error message displayed by the site, telling the user to "update your Flash player" " /></p>
<p>Of course, the &#8220;click to download&#8221; link leads to a page telling me that Flash is not available for the device I&#8217;m using. I imagine it would work the same way under Linux on my old G4 PowerBook, right down to the &#8220;download Flash&#8221; link being completely useless.</p>
<p>So in other words, this isn&#8217;t just a disability access nightmare. It&#8217;s just an accessibility nightmare <em>in general</em>.<br />
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/11/crossing-my-fingers-for-the-future/#comment-6193</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a doctor.  In American teaching hospitals, the consent you sign includes disclosure that physicians-in-training will participate in your care.  I don&#039;t know what the Canadian system is like, but none of what you described seems surprising or inappropriate.  Did you get a response to that letter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a doctor.  In American teaching hospitals, the consent you sign includes disclosure that physicians-in-training will participate in your care.  I don&#8217;t know what the Canadian system is like, but none of what you described seems surprising or inappropriate.  Did you get a response to that letter?</p>
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		<title>By: codeman38</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/11/crossing-my-fingers-for-the-future/#comment-6192</link>
		<dc:creator>codeman38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just FYI, the second &lt;blockquote&gt; looks like it should be a &lt;/blockquote&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just FYI, the second &lt;blockquote&gt; looks like it should be a &lt;/blockquote&gt;.</p>
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