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		<title>By: Donna</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/06/it-will-always-be-the-first-thing-i-think-of/#comment-8193</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erica, I think it is the same. I&#039;m a drug addict, nicotine is my drug of choice. I know that others who have quit smoking will start right back up under stress. They can quit for years and years but as soon as there is something that really has them feeling like they are losing control of their lives then they are out buying a pack of cigarettes again. I&#039;ve never been able to quit longer than a couple of weeks, but I still manage to do something self injuring when I am under stress, I chain smoke. I can go through 3-4 packs a day when I am really stressed out. The following day I can barely breathe. I think most alcoholics/substance abusers know they are self injuring too, it&#039;s just that for some of us it&#039;s still legal (alcohol and tobacco, anyway) and therefore &quot;acceptable&quot; to society, so it&#039;s easier to rationalize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erica, I think it is the same. I&#8217;m a drug addict, nicotine is my drug of choice. I know that others who have quit smoking will start right back up under stress. They can quit for years and years but as soon as there is something that really has them feeling like they are losing control of their lives then they are out buying a pack of cigarettes again. I&#8217;ve never been able to quit longer than a couple of weeks, but I still manage to do something self injuring when I am under stress, I chain smoke. I can go through 3-4 packs a day when I am really stressed out. The following day I can barely breathe. I think most alcoholics/substance abusers know they are self injuring too, it&#8217;s just that for some of us it&#8217;s still legal (alcohol and tobacco, anyway) and therefore &#8220;acceptable&#8221; to society, so it&#8217;s easier to rationalize.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/06/it-will-always-be-the-first-thing-i-think-of/#comment-8189</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*possible triggering, given that I&#039;m discussing self-harm*

Oh god, this is the post that I&#039;m printing out for my friend, the one who got to deal with me in meltdown this past week. She looked at me and said, &quot;But you hadn&#039;t self-injured in *years*.&quot; 

And I was sitting there bawling because I didn&#039;t know why I did it--it just seemed Like A Good Idea even though I knew better.

But it is my first response--and somehow I&#039;d never really grokked that. 

@Ettina That&#039;s the route that I always went, partially because I started self-injury before I was old enough to come up with other ideas. (5 year olds should not be in a place where they feel the need to injure themselves.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*possible triggering, given that I&#8217;m discussing self-harm*</p>
<p>Oh god, this is the post that I&#8217;m printing out for my friend, the one who got to deal with me in meltdown this past week. She looked at me and said, &#8220;But you hadn&#8217;t self-injured in *years*.&#8221; </p>
<p>And I was sitting there bawling because I didn&#8217;t know why I did it&#8211;it just seemed Like A Good Idea even though I knew better.</p>
<p>But it is my first response&#8211;and somehow I&#8217;d never really grokked that. </p>
<p>@Ettina That&#8217;s the route that I always went, partially because I started self-injury before I was old enough to come up with other ideas. (5 year olds should not be in a place where they feel the need to injure themselves.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ettina</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/06/it-will-always-be-the-first-thing-i-think-of/#comment-6421</link>
		<dc:creator>Ettina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do some people find discussion of self-injury triggering? I don&#039;t. Well, anyway, if you do, then *trigger warning*.

I still self-injure, mostly biting or punching at my wrist trying to make a bruise without causing too much pain. (The worst I did, completely on impulse, was hit myself with a glass bottle hard enough to see stars, but that&#039;s unusual for me.) I&#039;d like to be able to stop, but currently when I&#039;m in that emotional state, the other options are worse.
Regarding seeing something that could be used to self-injure and immediately visualizing doing that, I can relate. Except with me, it doesn&#039;t feel at all right, just causes a visceral horror - I&#039;m afraid of what I might do. Very often, it&#039;s not just self-injury, it&#039;s suicide or something that straddles the border between suicide and self-injury, like tieing a ribbon around my neck and pulling it as tight as it can go. Oh, and seeing my pet rats in that state sometimes makes me picture bashing their heads against the wall, and I feel the same horror at that as most pet owners would - if not more.
I wish someone could tell me how to stop having meltdowns, and all the associated stuff, self-injury included. But no one else has my mind, and something that worked for someone else&#039;s mind won&#039;t work for mine unless I find a way to adjust it to me. It&#039;s so frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do some people find discussion of self-injury triggering? I don&#8217;t. Well, anyway, if you do, then *trigger warning*.</p>
<p>I still self-injure, mostly biting or punching at my wrist trying to make a bruise without causing too much pain. (The worst I did, completely on impulse, was hit myself with a glass bottle hard enough to see stars, but that&#8217;s unusual for me.) I&#8217;d like to be able to stop, but currently when I&#8217;m in that emotional state, the other options are worse.<br />
Regarding seeing something that could be used to self-injure and immediately visualizing doing that, I can relate. Except with me, it doesn&#8217;t feel at all right, just causes a visceral horror &#8211; I&#8217;m afraid of what I might do. Very often, it&#8217;s not just self-injury, it&#8217;s suicide or something that straddles the border between suicide and self-injury, like tieing a ribbon around my neck and pulling it as tight as it can go. Oh, and seeing my pet rats in that state sometimes makes me picture bashing their heads against the wall, and I feel the same horror at that as most pet owners would &#8211; if not more.<br />
I wish someone could tell me how to stop having meltdowns, and all the associated stuff, self-injury included. But no one else has my mind, and something that worked for someone else&#8217;s mind won&#8217;t work for mine unless I find a way to adjust it to me. It&#8217;s so frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: The White Lady</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/06/it-will-always-be-the-first-thing-i-think-of/#comment-6198</link>
		<dc:creator>The White Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kali - WORD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kali &#8211; WORD.</p>
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		<title>By: Kali</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/06/it-will-always-be-the-first-thing-i-think-of/#comment-6158</link>
		<dc:creator>Kali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*trigger warning*

I tried to kill myself when I was 15 because the person I was didn&#039;t match up to the person I felt my parents and my teachers wanted me to be.  Brilliant wasn&#039;t enough, I had to be academically driven and willing to do bullshit assignments, too.

I haven&#039;t tried again since then.  The ideation, yeah, it&#039;s there.

For me, the more dangerous one is the ideation that&#039;s not deliberately suicidal.  The what-if.  &#039;What if I yanked the steering wheel of the car to the left and made it spin?&#039;  &#039;What if I just kept walking, right off the edge of the cliff?&#039;  I think the reason I do that falls closer to why most people self-harm - I need to do something, need to make something happen, something change.  Emotional ennui is more dangerous for me than rage or overwhelming darkness because I know the latter passes, while the ennui...sometimes it stays for a long time.  I think it&#039;s a form of depression, but no one has ever been able to do anything about it, except that a few of my more purely physical old habits (dancing, archery, rock-climbing) could hold it at bay temporarily.

The ennui is the most dangerous thing in my life.  It makes it harder to feel anything, so numb, and in that state I get so distant from everything that none of it matters anymore.  Which is why the &#039;what if&#039; becomes...possible.  Because nothing matters, nothing connects.

~Kali
www.brilliantmindbrokenbody.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*trigger warning*</p>
<p>I tried to kill myself when I was 15 because the person I was didn&#8217;t match up to the person I felt my parents and my teachers wanted me to be.  Brilliant wasn&#8217;t enough, I had to be academically driven and willing to do bullshit assignments, too.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t tried again since then.  The ideation, yeah, it&#8217;s there.</p>
<p>For me, the more dangerous one is the ideation that&#8217;s not deliberately suicidal.  The what-if.  &#8216;What if I yanked the steering wheel of the car to the left and made it spin?&#8217;  &#8216;What if I just kept walking, right off the edge of the cliff?&#8217;  I think the reason I do that falls closer to why most people self-harm &#8211; I need to do something, need to make something happen, something change.  Emotional ennui is more dangerous for me than rage or overwhelming darkness because I know the latter passes, while the ennui&#8230;sometimes it stays for a long time.  I think it&#8217;s a form of depression, but no one has ever been able to do anything about it, except that a few of my more purely physical old habits (dancing, archery, rock-climbing) could hold it at bay temporarily.</p>
<p>The ennui is the most dangerous thing in my life.  It makes it harder to feel anything, so numb, and in that state I get so distant from everything that none of it matters anymore.  Which is why the &#8216;what if&#8217; becomes&#8230;possible.  Because nothing matters, nothing connects.</p>
<p>~Kali<br />
<a href="http://www.brilliantmindbrokenbody.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.brilliantmindbrokenbody.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a couple days late when replying to this one, but I have had the same experience. I stopped a few years back, but the fact that it is still the first thing I think of doing, well. I was pretty ashamed of it to begin with; and I have come close a couple times this past year to self-harming again. It is very frustrating to think that this will always be with me, more than scars I can make excuses for, even as I learn better coping skills, this...flash of desire...will not really go away, I don&#039;t think.

It makes me feel pretty ashamed of myself, to think that I will always be like this.

@Becky: I think it is both in that they are sort of the same thing, partially. Oftentimes the overwhelmed feeling is instantaneous, but also some of the time, for me at least, it builds up BECAUSE of my poor coping methods, over a period of time of not handling it well, I become overwhelmed by what I am experiencing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a couple days late when replying to this one, but I have had the same experience. I stopped a few years back, but the fact that it is still the first thing I think of doing, well. I was pretty ashamed of it to begin with; and I have come close a couple times this past year to self-harming again. It is very frustrating to think that this will always be with me, more than scars I can make excuses for, even as I learn better coping skills, this&#8230;flash of desire&#8230;will not really go away, I don&#8217;t think.</p>
<p>It makes me feel pretty ashamed of myself, to think that I will always be like this.</p>
<p>@Becky: I think it is both in that they are sort of the same thing, partially. Oftentimes the overwhelmed feeling is instantaneous, but also some of the time, for me at least, it builds up BECAUSE of my poor coping methods, over a period of time of not handling it well, I become overwhelmed by what I am experiencing.</p>
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		<title>By: The White Lady</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/06/it-will-always-be-the-first-thing-i-think-of/#comment-6031</link>
		<dc:creator>The White Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe sometimes we can&#039;t go back.  Maybe these events/episodes turn us into a new person, a different person, one who will never be the way zie* was before.

*This is my first time using gender neutral pronouns.  Is that right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe sometimes we can&#8217;t go back.  Maybe these events/episodes turn us into a new person, a different person, one who will never be the way zie* was before.</p>
<p>*This is my first time using gender neutral pronouns.  Is that right?</p>
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		<title>By: kaninchenzero</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/06/it-will-always-be-the-first-thing-i-think-of/#comment-6018</link>
		<dc:creator>kaninchenzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been almost ten years since I last actually did anything to damage myself.  Many of the scars have faded.  In 1997 I did something I&#039;m still trying to learn how to forgive myself for.  The scars from it are obvious -- to me though other people don&#039;t see them until I point them out -- and I&#039;d have to wear gloves to hide them.

I quit smoking years back and sometimes I still want a cigarette.  It&#039;s a real specific one too: I could tell you the brand and the way the cloves in the tobacco leave oil stains on the paper and how it crackles when it burns.  I think about damaging myself a whole lot more often than I think about cigarettes but with the same loving detail.  Which I&#039;ll spare y&#039;all.

It may always be there.  But when you needed to do it it was what you needed to do to stay alive.  It&#039;s a coping skill.  Just like it was for me.  Then you -- and I -- didn&#039;t know anything else or there wasn&#039;t time for anything else.  Now we&#039;ve got other options (though it can be hard to remember them) and we use them.

I&#039;m not disappointed in you at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been almost ten years since I last actually did anything to damage myself.  Many of the scars have faded.  In 1997 I did something I&#8217;m still trying to learn how to forgive myself for.  The scars from it are obvious &#8212; to me though other people don&#8217;t see them until I point them out &#8212; and I&#8217;d have to wear gloves to hide them.</p>
<p>I quit smoking years back and sometimes I still want a cigarette.  It&#8217;s a real specific one too: I could tell you the brand and the way the cloves in the tobacco leave oil stains on the paper and how it crackles when it burns.  I think about damaging myself a whole lot more often than I think about cigarettes but with the same loving detail.  Which I&#8217;ll spare y&#8217;all.</p>
<p>It may always be there.  But when you needed to do it it was what you needed to do to stay alive.  It&#8217;s a coping skill.  Just like it was for me.  Then you &#8212; and I &#8212; didn&#8217;t know anything else or there wasn&#8217;t time for anything else.  Now we&#8217;ve got other options (though it can be hard to remember them) and we use them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not disappointed in you at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaitlyn</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/01/06/it-will-always-be-the-first-thing-i-think-of/#comment-5981</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaitlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 05:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing this.

POSSIBLE TRIGGER

I struggle with suicidal ideation - wouldn&#039;t it just be easier if I didn&#039;t have to do this because I&#039;d be dead?

I watched a movie - that I love to pieces - that had 3 suicides - one described, one body found, and one attempt. The attempt made me cry, because the movie was about college and the pressure cooker feeling. It was good to see it in a way.

[redacted per &lt;a href=&quot;http://disabledfeminists.com/comments-policy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comment policy&lt;/a&gt;]

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing this.</p>
<p>POSSIBLE TRIGGER</p>
<p>I struggle with suicidal ideation &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t it just be easier if I didn&#8217;t have to do this because I&#8217;d be dead?</p>
<p>I watched a movie &#8211; that I love to pieces &#8211; that had 3 suicides &#8211; one described, one body found, and one attempt. The attempt made me cry, because the movie was about college and the pressure cooker feeling. It was good to see it in a way.</p>
<p>[redacted per <a href="http://disabledfeminists.com/comments-policy/" rel="nofollow">comment policy</a>]</p>
<p>POSSIBLE TRIGGER</p>
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		<title>By: Ami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**TRIGGER?**

I have hurt myself in the past as a &quot;coping mechanism&quot; I think party out of anger (when coping with depression) that I turn on myself, and partly for a sense of control. It was the only way to release everything that was pent up. I haven&#039;t done it in 3 years though, so I guess I&#039;m dealing with everything more healthily now. Does (did) anyone else find themselves using it for these reasons (anger/control)? Either way it is still my first instinct when I am that low, it has become such a habit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**TRIGGER?**</p>
<p>I have hurt myself in the past as a &#8220;coping mechanism&#8221; I think party out of anger (when coping with depression) that I turn on myself, and partly for a sense of control. It was the only way to release everything that was pent up. I haven&#8217;t done it in 3 years though, so I guess I&#8217;m dealing with everything more healthily now. Does (did) anyone else find themselves using it for these reasons (anger/control)? Either way it is still my first instinct when I am that low, it has become such a habit.</p>
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