Comments on: Glee: The Halfway Point: Wrap Up http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/28/glee-the-halfway-point-wrap-up/ FWD (feminists with disabilities) for a way forward Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:29:21 +0000 hourly 1 By: meloukhia http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/28/glee-the-halfway-point-wrap-up/#comment-7685 meloukhia Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:54:47 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=2059#comment-7685 That would be "<a href="http://meloukhia.net/2009/12/glee_mattress.html" rel="nofollow">Mattress</a>," the 12th episode. That would be “Mattress,” the 12th episode.

]]> By: hsofia http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/28/glee-the-halfway-point-wrap-up/#comment-7684 hsofia Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:49:03 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=2059#comment-7684 What is the domestic abuse that's been referred to? I haven't seen all the episodes, so I don't know what I missed. What is the domestic abuse that’s been referred to? I haven’t seen all the episodes, so I don’t know what I missed.

]]> By: Lichita http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/28/glee-the-halfway-point-wrap-up/#comment-7668 Lichita Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:51:01 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=2059#comment-7668 I have only just finished watching the first season of Glee and I just wanted to say thanks for saying everything I was thinking about it (and so eloquently). I was horrified from the first episode by the portrayal of women and the casual sexism that underlies the whole thing. And then the domestic abuse! For goodness' sake! I am so very glad that other people noticed how terrifying that scene is and the different light it throws on the whole show. Not to mention all the other many many things that are wrong with the show. (Much as I enjoyed it actually when I wasn't cringing.) It really makes me concerned about the complacency of our society and the general belief that things like sexism/racism/homophobia don't exist anymore and disablism never existed in the first place, it's just reasonable to 'treat people who have different needs differently'. Aargh. Anyway, just glad you're doing what you're doing. I really enjoyed your pieces about it. I have only just finished watching the first season of Glee and I just wanted to say thanks for saying everything I was thinking about it (and so eloquently). I was horrified from the first episode by the portrayal of women and the casual sexism that underlies the whole thing. And then the domestic abuse! For goodness’ sake! I am so very glad that other people noticed how terrifying that scene is and the different light it throws on the whole show. Not to mention all the other many many things that are wrong with the show. (Much as I enjoyed it actually when I wasn’t cringing.) It really makes me concerned about the complacency of our society and the general belief that things like sexism/racism/homophobia don’t exist anymore and disablism never existed in the first place, it’s just reasonable to ‘treat people who have different needs differently’. Aargh. Anyway, just glad you’re doing what you’re doing. I really enjoyed your pieces about it.

]]> By: S http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/28/glee-the-halfway-point-wrap-up/#comment-7421 S Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:43:39 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=2059#comment-7421 I can see where you're coming from with a lot of what you've been saying (the only one that I personally noticed while watching was the deaf choir but I can recognise more of them) but I don't think that the people bulying Artie was meant to be funny. It seemed to me that the point of that scene was that Finn realised that he was doing something wrong and horrible and that's why he stepped in. *shrugs* Just the way I saw it. I can see where you’re coming from with a lot of what you’ve been saying (the only one that I personally noticed while watching was the deaf choir but I can recognise more of them) but I don’t think that the people bulying Artie was meant to be funny.

It seemed to me that the point of that scene was that Finn realised that he was doing something wrong and horrible and that’s why he stepped in. *shrugs* Just the way I saw it.

]]> By: Rachel Gadd-Nelson http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/28/glee-the-halfway-point-wrap-up/#comment-5950 Rachel Gadd-Nelson Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:00:59 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=2059#comment-5950 I would like to thank you so much for writing this series! I am so frustrated by the common saying, "Oh, stop looking so much into it! It's just a TV show. Stop taking it so seriously." This post simply proves that doesn't cut it. These characters do matter and this show does not exist within a vacuum. I have found this show fascinating and had really high hopes for it at the beginning. I'm finding now, though, that the production numbers are the only thing keeping me watching this show, and otherwise I am getting so frustrated with it. Because it was so difficult to express my concerns and discomfort with a lot of what was happening on the show (i.e. blatant domestic violence - thank you for calling that out!), it's been so great to find blog posts like this because it perfectly describes the issues I have had about this show. This is such a great post and I'm going to recommend it to anyone who watches this show! I would like to thank you so much for writing this series! I am so frustrated by the common saying, “Oh, stop looking so much into it! It’s just a TV show. Stop taking it so seriously.” This post simply proves that doesn’t cut it. These characters do matter and this show does not exist within a vacuum. I have found this show fascinating and had really high hopes for it at the beginning. I’m finding now, though, that the production numbers are the only thing keeping me watching this show, and otherwise I am getting so frustrated with it. Because it was so difficult to express my concerns and discomfort with a lot of what was happening on the show (i.e. blatant domestic violence – thank you for calling that out!), it’s been so great to find blog posts like this because it perfectly describes the issues I have had about this show. This is such a great post and I’m going to recommend it to anyone who watches this show!

]]> By: Isabel http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/28/glee-the-halfway-point-wrap-up/#comment-5415 Isabel Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:43:06 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=2059#comment-5415 Amandaw - that's a pretty brilliant point which I am going to ruminate on (with Glee & other things) a lot in the future, I suspect. Amandaw – that’s a pretty brilliant point which I am going to ruminate on (with Glee & other things) a lot in the future, I suspect.

]]> By: AWV http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/28/glee-the-halfway-point-wrap-up/#comment-5408 AWV Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:16:46 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=2059#comment-5408 Yeah, wouldn't breaking down stereotypes just be that Mercedes likes really old classic show tunes and gets in fights with Rachel and Mr. Schue because she thinks they do too much recent music, and Kurt likes writing dramatic poetry and wearing those pants with chains on them--you know, like they would be characters who have different personality traits while also belonging to minority groups. Except if that was the case no one would be going "THIS SHOW IS SO GREAT IT BREAKS DOWN STEREOTYPES" because the only reason people say that in the first place is because someone is like "um, Glee is offensive." The characters would just be themselves. Yeah, wouldn’t breaking down stereotypes just be that Mercedes likes really old classic show tunes and gets in fights with Rachel and Mr. Schue because she thinks they do too much recent music, and Kurt likes writing dramatic poetry and wearing those pants with chains on them–you know, like they would be characters who have different personality traits while also belonging to minority groups. Except if that was the case no one would be going “THIS SHOW IS SO GREAT IT BREAKS DOWN STEREOTYPES” because the only reason people say that in the first place is because someone is like “um, Glee is offensive.” The characters would just be themselves.

]]> By: amandaw http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/28/glee-the-halfway-point-wrap-up/#comment-5398 amandaw Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:33:46 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=2059#comment-5398 Heather -- It occurs to me that dominant peoples who think something "breaks down stereotypes" are actually seeing it <em>conform to stereotypes</em>, just not the ones they originally expected. Heather — It occurs to me that dominant peoples who think something “breaks down stereotypes” are actually seeing it conform to stereotypes, just not the ones they originally expected.

]]> By: Heather http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/28/glee-the-halfway-point-wrap-up/#comment-5383 Heather Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:35:32 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=2059#comment-5383 Everyone I see talking about Glee says how wonderful it is, how it breaks the stereotypes it sets up, but I've seen no actual evidence that it does. I haven't actually seen it, so I can't make a fully educated decision, but my instincts are warning me to stay clear and I think I'm gonna listen to them. Everyone I see talking about Glee says how wonderful it is, how it breaks the stereotypes it sets up, but I’ve seen no actual evidence that it does. I haven’t actually seen it, so I can’t make a fully educated decision, but my instincts are warning me to stay clear and I think I’m gonna listen to them.

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