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	<title>Comments on: The Perils of Social Media: How Insurance Companies Use Twitter, Facebook, and the Rest of the Internet to Deny Benefits</title>
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		<title>By: Static Nonsense</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/19/the-perils-of-social-media/#comment-5089</link>
		<dc:creator>Static Nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things like this are exactly why I try to use my paranoia to my advantage. I don&#039;t let people take pictures of me, I don&#039;t connect my real name to anything I do online (even registering for sites I use pseudonyms), and until recently I never made mention of my location. I&#039;ve loosened up on that now but try to avoid giving specifics. For a while I even had a fake birthday that I would use, though I don&#039;t remember when that was now. Also, Tor is awesome. The idea of anyone tracing what I say or do online to my identity is terrifying, partially because I know how easy it is. And things like this only further justify it in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things like this are exactly why I try to use my paranoia to my advantage. I don&#8217;t let people take pictures of me, I don&#8217;t connect my real name to anything I do online (even registering for sites I use pseudonyms), and until recently I never made mention of my location. I&#8217;ve loosened up on that now but try to avoid giving specifics. For a while I even had a fake birthday that I would use, though I don&#8217;t remember when that was now. Also, Tor is awesome. The idea of anyone tracing what I say or do online to my identity is terrifying, partially because I know how easy it is. And things like this only further justify it in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: JoSelle</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/19/the-perils-of-social-media/#comment-5085</link>
		<dc:creator>JoSelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Sigh* Oh look. It&#039;s Sunday, which means somebody is questioning whether or not we&#039;re &quot;sick enough.&quot; Disappointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Sigh* Oh look. It&#8217;s Sunday, which means somebody is questioning whether or not we&#8217;re &#8220;sick enough.&#8221; Disappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/19/the-perils-of-social-media/#comment-5078</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, clearly this needs to be said, because this keeps coming up in this thread: Comments which police disability are &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; acceptable at FWD. Read &lt;a href=&quot;http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/19/bad-cripple/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bad Cripple&lt;/a&gt; to understand why policing disability and the forms it takes are not. Ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, clearly this needs to be said, because this keeps coming up in this thread: Comments which police disability are <em>not</em> acceptable at FWD. Read <a href="http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/19/bad-cripple/" rel="nofollow">Bad Cripple</a> to understand why policing disability and the forms it takes are not. Ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/19/the-perils-of-social-media/#comment-5075</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting post - certainly I know of a number of folks receiving benefits based on physical and mental healthcare issues whose online &#039;snapshot&#039; postings might portray a differemt view of their health.  Of course, the bottom line is that folks may suffer from long term illness and yet have &#039;good days&#039;, like you say.  Such days should, of course, be taken in context and should not be treated differently to information about your health gained in conversation, for example.

[Redacted for &lt;a href=&quot;http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/03/policing-disability/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;policing disability&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting post &#8211; certainly I know of a number of folks receiving benefits based on physical and mental healthcare issues whose online &#8216;snapshot&#8217; postings might portray a differemt view of their health.  Of course, the bottom line is that folks may suffer from long term illness and yet have &#8216;good days&#8217;, like you say.  Such days should, of course, be taken in context and should not be treated differently to information about your health gained in conversation, for example.</p>
<p>[Redacted for <a href="http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/03/policing-disability/" rel="nofollow">policing disability</a>]</p>
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		<title>By: Meg Thornton</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/19/the-perils-of-social-media/#comment-5034</link>
		<dc:creator>Meg Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take on the whole mess is fairly straightforward.  That there picture above this is me.  I&#039;ve been posting on the internet now (usenet, email, IRC, weblogs etc) since about 1997, and if there&#039;s anything out there which is likely to be used against me (whether in a court of law or otherwise) it&#039;s probably been out there at least that long.  My web identity is fairly easily linkable to my &quot;real&quot; name (which is why I&#039;m defaulting to using that now, rather than attempting to conceal things) and I&#039;ve never been particularly cautious about what I&#039;ve been saying over the years.  I also figure I&#039;m not likely to be able to get away with committing &#039;net suicide (deleting this identity and creating a new one from scratch).  So instead I live with it - and I&#039;ll admit cheerfully one of the things I&#039;m thankful for is I haven&#039;t been dependent on an insurance company for my eating and walking around money.  Even if Centrelink&#039;s lovely review and recovery people might want to have me up in front of the tribunal for not being sufficiently deserving[1] while in receipt of government monies, they have to accumulate more evidence of the matter than one photo, three blog posts and a snarky letter from the neighbours about me being up until all hours gaming.

Besides, I have Himself fighting in my corner - and he takes on large bureaucracies and petty bureaucrats as a sort of hobby (he started this while working for the Department of Social Security, and he still has fun with it).  He&#039;s also the type of Gemini person who gets away with doing things which are seemingly at 90 degrees to the rest of reality (as in, he does something, while I&#039;m saying &quot;that won&#039;t... oh, it worked.  How did you do that?&quot;) and somehow hoodwinking reality for long enough to get away with it.  It makes him do things like making sure there&#039;s a doc[2] on his Centrelink record saying yes, moving from Cottesloe to Parmelia is a legal move in the great chess game of receiving the dole, and makes him keen on getting exact references to the exact portion of the Centrelink procedure manual which says it is so, but it&#039;s a great comfort to have.

[1] As in &quot;deserving poor&quot; - meek, mild, grateful for the scraps from the government&#039;s table, no sinful behaviours, no forbidden pleasures etc.  The preferred condition for all recipients of government benefits.
[2] Document - a note attached to the computer file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on the whole mess is fairly straightforward.  That there picture above this is me.  I&#8217;ve been posting on the internet now (usenet, email, IRC, weblogs etc) since about 1997, and if there&#8217;s anything out there which is likely to be used against me (whether in a court of law or otherwise) it&#8217;s probably been out there at least that long.  My web identity is fairly easily linkable to my &#8220;real&#8221; name (which is why I&#8217;m defaulting to using that now, rather than attempting to conceal things) and I&#8217;ve never been particularly cautious about what I&#8217;ve been saying over the years.  I also figure I&#8217;m not likely to be able to get away with committing &#8216;net suicide (deleting this identity and creating a new one from scratch).  So instead I live with it &#8211; and I&#8217;ll admit cheerfully one of the things I&#8217;m thankful for is I haven&#8217;t been dependent on an insurance company for my eating and walking around money.  Even if Centrelink&#8217;s lovely review and recovery people might want to have me up in front of the tribunal for not being sufficiently deserving[1] while in receipt of government monies, they have to accumulate more evidence of the matter than one photo, three blog posts and a snarky letter from the neighbours about me being up until all hours gaming.</p>
<p>Besides, I have Himself fighting in my corner &#8211; and he takes on large bureaucracies and petty bureaucrats as a sort of hobby (he started this while working for the Department of Social Security, and he still has fun with it).  He&#8217;s also the type of Gemini person who gets away with doing things which are seemingly at 90 degrees to the rest of reality (as in, he does something, while I&#8217;m saying &#8220;that won&#8217;t&#8230; oh, it worked.  How did you do that?&#8221;) and somehow hoodwinking reality for long enough to get away with it.  It makes him do things like making sure there&#8217;s a doc[2] on his Centrelink record saying yes, moving from Cottesloe to Parmelia is a legal move in the great chess game of receiving the dole, and makes him keen on getting exact references to the exact portion of the Centrelink procedure manual which says it is so, but it&#8217;s a great comfort to have.</p>
<p>[1] As in &#8220;deserving poor&#8221; &#8211; meek, mild, grateful for the scraps from the government&#8217;s table, no sinful behaviours, no forbidden pleasures etc.  The preferred condition for all recipients of government benefits.<br />
[2] Document &#8211; a note attached to the computer file.</p>
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		<title>By: genderbitch</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/19/the-perils-of-social-media/#comment-5016</link>
		<dc:creator>genderbitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why my identity is so very very concealed. My professional twitter is dissociated from my blogging one.
.-= genderbitch´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://genderbitch.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/some-words-on-making-peace/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some Words On “Making Peace”&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why my identity is so very very concealed. My professional twitter is dissociated from my blogging one.<br />
.-= genderbitch´s last blog ..<a href="http://genderbitch.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/some-words-on-making-peace/" rel="nofollow">Some Words On “Making Peace”</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Nonny</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/19/the-perils-of-social-media/#comment-5005</link>
		<dc:creator>Nonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lauredhel:

Again, I said &quot;&lt;i&gt;for myself&lt;/i&gt;.&quot; I &lt;i&gt;personally&lt;/i&gt; do not think that it is strong enough a likelihood to be a concern. As I stated above, others may feel differently, and everyone has to act according to their comfort level. I never once suggested anybody should do differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lauredhel:</p>
<p>Again, I said &#8220;<i>for myself</i>.&#8221; I <i>personally</i> do not think that it is strong enough a likelihood to be a concern. As I stated above, others may feel differently, and everyone has to act according to their comfort level. I never once suggested anybody should do differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/19/the-perils-of-social-media/#comment-5004</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The denials in Canada aren&#039;t for basic health care, but for extended benefits.  Which is by no means a vast improvement, especially with the Toronto stuff since it&#039;s cutting of benefits that are for people&#039;s &lt;em&gt;food needs&lt;/em&gt;.
.-= Anna´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://trouble.dreamwidth.org/548461.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Used Textbook Donations&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The denials in Canada aren&#8217;t for basic health care, but for extended benefits.  Which is by no means a vast improvement, especially with the Toronto stuff since it&#8217;s cutting of benefits that are for people&#8217;s <em>food needs</em>.<br />
.-= Anna´s last blog ..<a href="http://trouble.dreamwidth.org/548461.html" rel="nofollow">Used Textbook Donations</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: lauredhel</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/19/the-perils-of-social-media/#comment-5002</link>
		<dc:creator>lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Myself, I’m not willing to constantly be looking over my shoulder because of the possibility that x, y, or z may happen because I’m too open. If it does, I’ll deal with it then.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When &quot;dealing with it&quot; can involve being homeless and not being able to feed yourself or your children, let alone afford your medications etc, while you attempt to engage in a protracted court case against an opponent with unlimited money in a court that may well not even be accessible to you, it&#039;s not quite as simple as making a choice to ignore the possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Myself, I’m not willing to constantly be looking over my shoulder because of the possibility that x, y, or z may happen because I’m too open. If it does, I’ll deal with it then.</p></blockquote>
<p>When &#8220;dealing with it&#8221; can involve being homeless and not being able to feed yourself or your children, let alone afford your medications etc, while you attempt to engage in a protracted court case against an opponent with unlimited money in a court that may well not even be accessible to you, it&#8217;s not quite as simple as making a choice to ignore the possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Nonny</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/19/the-perils-of-social-media/#comment-5000</link>
		<dc:creator>Nonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plenty of bad things can happen if you let out too much personal information on the web. Over at a romance writers&#039; board, we have a lady who&#039;s ended up with a stalker as a result of what she has written and said on her blog, Facebook, and Twitter. We have another whose soon-to-be-ex-husband is scouring the Internet for anything she has said to be used against her in divorce proceedings. There are stories of people who have lost out on jobs or been fired because of things they said online. This is another in the long list of possible outcomes.

I think it&#039;s important that people consider how much they&#039;re willing to put out there and the possible consequences. People think that the Internet is anonymous, as long as you use a screen name, but that&#039;s not absolutely true. How many scandals have there been because somebody outed an anonymous blogger? Nothing said on the Internet is ever truly private; even if you tell it to only &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; person, what do you do if that person turns vindictive and posts it all over the web?

Myself, I&#039;m not willing to constantly be looking over my shoulder because of the possibility that x, y, or z may happen because I&#039;m too open. If it does, I&#039;ll deal with it then. That&#039;s how I feel personally; others have different comfort levels.

I think this sort of thing is absolutely sick, especially coming from insurance companies, but not altogether surprising. I wonder how it will shake out, though, because I can&#039;t imagine that making a determination to cease coverage on basis of a mere photograph is legal and would hold up in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of bad things can happen if you let out too much personal information on the web. Over at a romance writers&#8217; board, we have a lady who&#8217;s ended up with a stalker as a result of what she has written and said on her blog, Facebook, and Twitter. We have another whose soon-to-be-ex-husband is scouring the Internet for anything she has said to be used against her in divorce proceedings. There are stories of people who have lost out on jobs or been fired because of things they said online. This is another in the long list of possible outcomes.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important that people consider how much they&#8217;re willing to put out there and the possible consequences. People think that the Internet is anonymous, as long as you use a screen name, but that&#8217;s not absolutely true. How many scandals have there been because somebody outed an anonymous blogger? Nothing said on the Internet is ever truly private; even if you tell it to only <i>one</i> person, what do you do if that person turns vindictive and posts it all over the web?</p>
<p>Myself, I&#8217;m not willing to constantly be looking over my shoulder because of the possibility that x, y, or z may happen because I&#8217;m too open. If it does, I&#8217;ll deal with it then. That&#8217;s how I feel personally; others have different comfort levels.</p>
<p>I think this sort of thing is absolutely sick, especially coming from insurance companies, but not altogether surprising. I wonder how it will shake out, though, because I can&#8217;t imagine that making a determination to cease coverage on basis of a mere photograph is legal and would hold up in court.</p>
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