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	<title>Comments on: The Cautionary Tale of the Kehoe Twins: Is This About Surrogacy, or Whether or Not Disabled Women Can Parent?</title>
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		<title>By: Joanne Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that for too long people with disabilities had been told that having families of our own was not an option. The truth is, though, that we have always been parents, and as our society evolves, more and more of us will have access to that opportunity. Parenting with a disability is and always has been a legal right as much as it is for any other person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that for too long people with disabilities had been told that having families of our own was not an option. The truth is, though, that we have always been parents, and as our society evolves, more and more of us will have access to that opportunity. Parenting with a disability is and always has been a legal right as much as it is for any other person.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting post.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting post.</p>
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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/16/the-cautionary-tale-of-the-kehoe-twins-is-this-about-surrogacy-or-whether-or-not-disabled-women-can-parent/#comment-4959</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avalon&#039;s Willow, Mrs. Baker does in fact have a partner, but it is interesting that the coverage of the case has focused primarily on Amy and Laschelle, not on the roles that their husbands would/will be playing in child rearing. 



&lt;blockquote&gt;Is it that mothers have to be beyond any sort of societal reproach?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yup, this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avalon&#8217;s Willow, Mrs. Baker does in fact have a partner, but it is interesting that the coverage of the case has focused primarily on Amy and Laschelle, not on the roles that their husbands would/will be playing in child rearing. </p>
<blockquote><p>Is it that mothers have to be beyond any sort of societal reproach?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yup, this.</p>
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		<title>By: Avalon's Willow</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/16/the-cautionary-tale-of-the-kehoe-twins-is-this-about-surrogacy-or-whether-or-not-disabled-women-can-parent/#comment-4956</link>
		<dc:creator>Avalon's Willow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve seen it mentioned in comments here, but the articles linked to (did not read them, because my blood pressure needs to stay low) do they in anyway bring up that this was a &lt;em&gt;couple&lt;/em&gt; adopting a child?

I ask because there seems to be, this heavy handed &#039;But what if she went off her meds/ I couldn&#039;t think of what would happen&#039; on the part of the surrogate, but there&#039;s no mention of the twins&#039; would be father.

Is it that mothers have to be beyond any sort of societal reproach?

Even if Ms Kohoe&#039;s mental illness had any number of fluctuations in care and management; she had a partner to help with parenting, nurturing and care.

What, her husband, the man who wanted to be the twins father, would supposedly just sit there and not help with anything should his wife feel overwhelmed?

Was Baker also getting the twins as a single parent or did she too have a partner?

If not there&#039;s a subtext that should be as brought to light as the disability angle as it is directly related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve seen it mentioned in comments here, but the articles linked to (did not read them, because my blood pressure needs to stay low) do they in anyway bring up that this was a <em>couple</em> adopting a child?</p>
<p>I ask because there seems to be, this heavy handed &#8216;But what if she went off her meds/ I couldn&#8217;t think of what would happen&#8217; on the part of the surrogate, but there&#8217;s no mention of the twins&#8217; would be father.</p>
<p>Is it that mothers have to be beyond any sort of societal reproach?</p>
<p>Even if Ms Kohoe&#8217;s mental illness had any number of fluctuations in care and management; she had a partner to help with parenting, nurturing and care.</p>
<p>What, her husband, the man who wanted to be the twins father, would supposedly just sit there and not help with anything should his wife feel overwhelmed?</p>
<p>Was Baker also getting the twins as a single parent or did she too have a partner?</p>
<p>If not there&#8217;s a subtext that should be as brought to light as the disability angle as it is directly related.</p>
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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/16/the-cautionary-tale-of-the-kehoe-twins-is-this-about-surrogacy-or-whether-or-not-disabled-women-can-parent/#comment-4930</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jmommybear, thank you for the correction! Amy has also been in touch with us and the post has been edited to reflect the correct information about her diagnosis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jmommybear, thank you for the correction! Amy has also been in touch with us and the post has been edited to reflect the correct information about her diagnosis.</p>
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		<title>By: Jmommybear</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/16/the-cautionary-tale-of-the-kehoe-twins-is-this-about-surrogacy-or-whether-or-not-disabled-women-can-parent/#comment-4922</link>
		<dc:creator>Jmommybear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for addressing this angle of this case!
 
I am actually a friend helping Amy and Scott through this situation and I would like to request that you please correct her diagnosis. She does not actually have schizophrenia, though I realize the NYT worded it cleverly to appear like she did. Her husband misspoke in his nervousness when he said that. In fact, Amy was diagnosed with 298.9 - Psychotic Disorder NOS. I realize it does not change the nature of your article, but for accuracy, she would appreciate if you change it. 

Again, thank you for seeing the injustice in Laschell&#039;s act. Besides being a friend to Amy, I am also a surrogate and an IVF nurse. Perhaps that makes it easier for me to see how wrong it is for Laschell to discriminate against Amy for an 8-year, well-controlled mental illness, but to me it seems so obvious. I&#039;m happy to see others recognizing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for addressing this angle of this case!</p>
<p>I am actually a friend helping Amy and Scott through this situation and I would like to request that you please correct her diagnosis. She does not actually have schizophrenia, though I realize the NYT worded it cleverly to appear like she did. Her husband misspoke in his nervousness when he said that. In fact, Amy was diagnosed with 298.9 &#8211; Psychotic Disorder NOS. I realize it does not change the nature of your article, but for accuracy, she would appreciate if you change it. </p>
<p>Again, thank you for seeing the injustice in Laschell&#8217;s act. Besides being a friend to Amy, I am also a surrogate and an IVF nurse. Perhaps that makes it easier for me to see how wrong it is for Laschell to discriminate against Amy for an 8-year, well-controlled mental illness, but to me it seems so obvious. I&#8217;m happy to see others recognizing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Norah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were to have children, I&#039;d need a lot of assistance at least for a time and possibly always. Currently I do not want children (while I -want- children, or a child anyway, like physically, feelings/hormones/chemicals and all that stuff, I do not want children for many other reasons which weigh much heavier and which by the way do not include autism or anxiety disorders or backpain or anything like that), nor does my partner, but if that changes, we&#039;d probably have a problem. I currently do not receive any of the services I need even without children, so I am less than optimistic about how well any help that I would need to take care of a child would be handled. I wonder if people would try to talk me out of having children or even try to force me somehow not to have them, if I even asked about extra assistance becuse of having children. If I cannot have children by having one or more grow in my womb, I will probably never have them because I doubt I&#039;d be able to adopt.

People deciding that someone would be an unfit parent based on a diagnosis, enrage me. And all the stuff surrounding that too, that has already been mentioned in the comments.

I think my mother was better able to parent us because she is also autistic, and so are we. I truly believe that no one not autistic would have been able to &#039;get it&#039; so deeply as she did, recognise our issues right away because she simply lived through them. Even though we are all different, we seem to be autistic in the same ways, the way that you sometimes meet people who are very little like you with the same diagnosis, but sometimes you meet people with your diagnosis and you have SO MUCH in common in that area. I&#039;ve met with a lot of resistance, even anger, when stating that. A lot of parents who insist that no one could have done a better job than them even if they are NT, that they really listen to their children well, they would do anything fortheir children etc. Even though I never said anything about any other parents or anything outside my own situation. They seemed to feel personally attacked, like I was saying someone else would have done a better job raising their children or that they don&#039;t love them as much, even the &#039;neurodiverse&#039; parents.
.-= Norah´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogwithoutatopic.web-log.nl/blog_without_a_topic/2009/12/identification.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Identification&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were to have children, I&#8217;d need a lot of assistance at least for a time and possibly always. Currently I do not want children (while I -want- children, or a child anyway, like physically, feelings/hormones/chemicals and all that stuff, I do not want children for many other reasons which weigh much heavier and which by the way do not include autism or anxiety disorders or backpain or anything like that), nor does my partner, but if that changes, we&#8217;d probably have a problem. I currently do not receive any of the services I need even without children, so I am less than optimistic about how well any help that I would need to take care of a child would be handled. I wonder if people would try to talk me out of having children or even try to force me somehow not to have them, if I even asked about extra assistance becuse of having children. If I cannot have children by having one or more grow in my womb, I will probably never have them because I doubt I&#8217;d be able to adopt.</p>
<p>People deciding that someone would be an unfit parent based on a diagnosis, enrage me. And all the stuff surrounding that too, that has already been mentioned in the comments.</p>
<p>I think my mother was better able to parent us because she is also autistic, and so are we. I truly believe that no one not autistic would have been able to &#8216;get it&#8217; so deeply as she did, recognise our issues right away because she simply lived through them. Even though we are all different, we seem to be autistic in the same ways, the way that you sometimes meet people who are very little like you with the same diagnosis, but sometimes you meet people with your diagnosis and you have SO MUCH in common in that area. I&#8217;ve met with a lot of resistance, even anger, when stating that. A lot of parents who insist that no one could have done a better job than them even if they are NT, that they really listen to their children well, they would do anything fortheir children etc. Even though I never said anything about any other parents or anything outside my own situation. They seemed to feel personally attacked, like I was saying someone else would have done a better job raising their children or that they don&#8217;t love them as much, even the &#8216;neurodiverse&#8217; parents.<br />
.-= Norah´s last blog ..<a href="http://blogwithoutatopic.web-log.nl/blog_without_a_topic/2009/12/identification.html" rel="nofollow">Identification</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/12/16/the-cautionary-tale-of-the-kehoe-twins-is-this-about-surrogacy-or-whether-or-not-disabled-women-can-parent/#comment-4851</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But of course there is also the possibility that Ms. Baker was trying to keep the child (and as the post also says, MI tends to side usually with the surrogate), and she decided to use a sensationalist reasoning to presumably give her more sympathy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This. I brought this up briefly in the essay; it&#039;s not clear if the roots behind the suit for custody had to do with ableism, or a desire to keep the babies and a calculated decision to use Kehoe&#039;s mental illness as an excuse. I didn&#039;t have the time to do the legwork and find documentation when I wrote this up, but I know that there have been a number of cases in which surrogates have been unable to surrender babies and those cases have not always been ruled in the surrogate&#039;s favour as a result of the attitude that the contracting parents are entitled to the baby. It may be that this was seen as an easy win with mental illness in the mix. Which is very disturbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But of course there is also the possibility that Ms. Baker was trying to keep the child (and as the post also says, MI tends to side usually with the surrogate), and she decided to use a sensationalist reasoning to presumably give her more sympathy.</p></blockquote>
<p>This. I brought this up briefly in the essay; it&#8217;s not clear if the roots behind the suit for custody had to do with ableism, or a desire to keep the babies and a calculated decision to use Kehoe&#8217;s mental illness as an excuse. I didn&#8217;t have the time to do the legwork and find documentation when I wrote this up, but I know that there have been a number of cases in which surrogates have been unable to surrender babies and those cases have not always been ruled in the surrogate&#8217;s favour as a result of the attitude that the contracting parents are entitled to the baby. It may be that this was seen as an easy win with mental illness in the mix. Which is very disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one choose not to have children, and my mental disability is a factor (not the only factor or the biggest factor, even) in that decision. However, I do not believe that there is any reason to question a person&#039;s parenting skills simply on the basis of a disability. Further, if the state the intended parents live in, does not discriminate on the basis of disability in regular adoption cases (which my country, the Netherlands, does, despite its so-called &quot;liberal&quot; adoption policy because gay parents can adopt), there is no reason disabled prospective parents should be discriminated against in surrogacy cases. If the state does discriminate the disabled in adoption cases, it should obviously change its laws, but I get from the post that Michigan isn&#039;t at least that ableist.

But of course there is also the possibility that Ms. Baker was trying to keep the child (and as the post also says, MI tends to side usually with the surrogate), and she decided to use a sensationalist reasoning to presumably give her more sympathy. As it turns out, she succeeded, and that is a very bad thing on the part of the media. Assume that she&#039;d refused to give up the twins because Ms. Tehoe belonged to a racial minority. I bet the media would&#039;ve portrayed a totally different picture of her then. But for some strange reason, disability is different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one choose not to have children, and my mental disability is a factor (not the only factor or the biggest factor, even) in that decision. However, I do not believe that there is any reason to question a person&#8217;s parenting skills simply on the basis of a disability. Further, if the state the intended parents live in, does not discriminate on the basis of disability in regular adoption cases (which my country, the Netherlands, does, despite its so-called &#8220;liberal&#8221; adoption policy because gay parents can adopt), there is no reason disabled prospective parents should be discriminated against in surrogacy cases. If the state does discriminate the disabled in adoption cases, it should obviously change its laws, but I get from the post that Michigan isn&#8217;t at least that ableist.</p>
<p>But of course there is also the possibility that Ms. Baker was trying to keep the child (and as the post also says, MI tends to side usually with the surrogate), and she decided to use a sensationalist reasoning to presumably give her more sympathy. As it turns out, she succeeded, and that is a very bad thing on the part of the media. Assume that she&#8217;d refused to give up the twins because Ms. Tehoe belonged to a racial minority. I bet the media would&#8217;ve portrayed a totally different picture of her then. But for some strange reason, disability is different.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnatalby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gnatalby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the one that gives me the side effects is actually an SNRI: Remeron (mirtazapine). I don&#039;t know enough about brain chemistry to really know what that mean means though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the one that gives me the side effects is actually an SNRI: Remeron (mirtazapine). I don&#8217;t know enough about brain chemistry to really know what that mean means though.</p>
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