15 responses to “Dear Imprudence: Getting It Right”

  1. kaninchenzero

    Also outstanding use of ‘gentlewoman’ there. It’s a word that doesn’t see print near enough for my tastes.

  2. Erin

    Yeah, I thought the same thing – “gentlewoman”??

    But good advice, as far as dealing with those assholes.

  3. Naamah

    And this is what I mean when I explain that being nice does not mean taking crap off everyone who cares to give it.

    Outstanding advice.

  4. PharaohKatt

    kaninchenzero: Agree about “gentlewoman”. Very nicely done.

    Huzzah for getting it right. This was the perfect response. People who know you’re in a relationship should damn well know better then to leave your partner off the invite (just a “plus 1″ if you’ve forgotten partner’s name). It’s so fucking infantalising; it assumes that you know the ability of the person better than they or their spouse do, because you’re not letting them make the decision for themselves.
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  5. Kerry

    I totally agree on not excluding people for being disabled, but on the other hand, this article seems to assume a level of joined-at-the-hip-ness for couples that is seriously alien to me. Do married couples really get invited to everything as a unit? What if they have separate interests and friends and so on? Personally I’m used to being invited to most things as an individual, so the idea of that being bad is freaking me out here.

  6. Anna

    Don’t freak out, Kerry. Everyone’s different about what they want/need for themselves and their relationship.

    But the context of the letter is that it’s bothering both the letter writer and hir mother that hir father isn’t getting included in invitations, and “function” has an implication of formal function, such as maybe a wedding or a dinner party.

  7. The White Lady

    @ kerry – I don’t know where you live, but in scotland, if you are inviting someone to a function (such as dinner/a concert/a ceilidh – obvious things such as a girls’ night out are excepted) then you extend the invitation to their significant other.

    Rock on, Miss Manners.

  8. The White Lady

    I forgot to add – it’s considered polite to do this, which just makes the behaviour of these people even stranger and more rude to me. Of course, this could just be a cultural issue.

  9. Dogged

    What are these people thinking (the ones issuing the invitations)? Assuming it’s an event couples would normally attend together, the only reason you’d stop inviting one partner was if they’d split up (and maybe not even then if you were friends with both) or if they’d died. So leaving the disabled partner off the invitation is basically treating them as if they’re dead. And if that isn’t rude I don’t know what is.

    The advice was awesome – I hope the mother takes it up.

  10. Caitlin

    That’s excellent advice for an awful thing, IMTABO. I can’t understand why you wouldn’t invite both halves of the couple to an event/function that is welcoming both halves of other couples. It’s very rude and extremely demeaning for the person being ignored, I think.

    (Of course, another extreme is like what happened to my grandmother when I was living with her – someone called to talk to my grandfather, wouldn’t talk to her, and then was more than a little flustered when she informed him (the caller) that her husband had been dead for twenty years, so if he wanted to talk to the “head of the household” he would have to talk to her. /off-topic)
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  11. Frankincensy

    Kerry – I had wondered about that as well, as whilst it depends very much on the event and this would never happen at a family occasion, it’s not uncommon for one of my parents to receive an invitation for them alone. That said, from the letter-writer’s feelings about hir father being excluded, it sounds as if an invitation for just one parent was inappropriate here, and in that case the advice is spot on.

  12. Jesse the K

    Along similar lines, those of us whose impairments vary can sometimes lose social contacts because others are “taking care” of our access needs without understanding them.

    There have been people who’ve hesitated to invite me over because their house has stairs. Yes, I use a power wheelchair, but I can also walk: if I’m welcome, let me know, and I’ll decide based on my capabilities on that day.

  13. Kaitlyn

    Jesse the K – I know it’s not up to you to tell somebody your abilities, but I don’t know if someone in a wheelchair can walk up a couple steps or not, unless we’ve been friends so long that we’re comfortable kvetching about our health problems together.

    I think if I had an event in a place without decent handicapped access, I would put that information on everyone’s invites. “BTW – there are a few steps, we have X number of benches, please call if you have any questions.”

    As for my house, I guess I wouldn’t assume someone who used a wheelchair couldn’t walk and say, “Do you want to meet at my place or yours? My house probably isn’t wheelchair friendly.” That way they could tell me what they can do if they want or ask what is wrong with the house. (Not a hole in the wall! We fixed that one!)

  14. Kali

    As I recall, Miss Conduct tends to do well on a lot of fronts, including disability and fat awareness.

    The core of her message seems to be that oh-so-simple thing we all ask for: treating people as PEOPLE, with respect and decency. It’s really a pity that more advice columnists don’t use that as their foundational principle.
    ~Kali
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