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	<title>Comments on: Ableist Word Profile: Wheelchair Bound</title>
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		<title>By: PharaohKatt</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/18/abliest-word-profile-wheelchair-bound/#comment-3195</link>
		<dc:creator>PharaohKatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel: &lt;blockquote&gt;Thinking about this a little, I wonder if some less awkward version of “wheelchairer” could be put into use. Akin to say, “biker” or “rider” or “driver”, etc, this gets away from the “oh noes, wheelchairs are sad” sentiments and can even include the part-time user of wheelchairs without reflecting poorly on anybody.

I’d suggest Wheeler, but that brings to mind the 90s cartoon Captain Planet – not an association I’d want.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What about &quot;Wheelist&quot;, kind of like &quot;cyclist&quot; or &quot;motorist&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel:<br />
<blockquote>Thinking about this a little, I wonder if some less awkward version of “wheelchairer” could be put into use. Akin to say, “biker” or “rider” or “driver”, etc, this gets away from the “oh noes, wheelchairs are sad” sentiments and can even include the part-time user of wheelchairs without reflecting poorly on anybody.</p>
<p>I’d suggest Wheeler, but that brings to mind the 90s cartoon Captain Planet – not an association I’d want.</p></blockquote>
<p>What about &#8220;Wheelist&#8221;, kind of like &#8220;cyclist&#8221; or &#8220;motorist&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: lilacsigil</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/18/abliest-word-profile-wheelchair-bound/#comment-3193</link>
		<dc:creator>lilacsigil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got to correct this particular phrase while beta reading a friend&#039;s fanfic today, and this post gave me a way to explain why! Thanks for keeping ableist word choices in the spotlight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to correct this particular phrase while beta reading a friend&#8217;s fanfic today, and this post gave me a way to explain why! Thanks for keeping ableist word choices in the spotlight.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/18/abliest-word-profile-wheelchair-bound/#comment-2895</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I think of &quot;wheelchair bound&quot; I think of going TO a wheelchair. Like &quot;homeward bound&quot; only with wheelchairs rather than houses.

But the people who are always described as &quot;wheelchair bound&quot; are usually already IN their chairs. Maybe they&#039;re going to other chairs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I think of &#8220;wheelchair bound&#8221; I think of going TO a wheelchair. Like &#8220;homeward bound&#8221; only with wheelchairs rather than houses.</p>
<p>But the people who are always described as &#8220;wheelchair bound&#8221; are usually already IN their chairs. Maybe they&#8217;re going to other chairs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mina</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/18/abliest-word-profile-wheelchair-bound/#comment-2890</link>
		<dc:creator>Mina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for linking to the post by Wheelchair Dancer. My best friend and I were in a car accident this past spring and with her leg broken in 2 places, she was in a wheelchair for 3 months, and I took her out a lot. Some of that, we had to learn the hard way, like how hitting bumps risked pitching her forwards. And she hated it if I&#039;d start &quot;helping&quot; her by pushing her when she wasn&#039;t expecting it. And it was hard to discover how &quot;wheelchair accessible&quot; does not necessarily mean &quot;wheelchair friendly.&quot; I know at least one restaurant that, if I hadn&#039;t been in the bathroom with her, she would have had a VERY hard time getting herself out of. 

The biggest thing I&#039;d ask other people is if you see us struggling with a door, please get up and hold it for us! (Though we got better at navigating tough doors the longer she was in the chair.) Some people did, but most people just ignored us. I promise not to chew anyone out for being helpful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for linking to the post by Wheelchair Dancer. My best friend and I were in a car accident this past spring and with her leg broken in 2 places, she was in a wheelchair for 3 months, and I took her out a lot. Some of that, we had to learn the hard way, like how hitting bumps risked pitching her forwards. And she hated it if I&#8217;d start &#8220;helping&#8221; her by pushing her when she wasn&#8217;t expecting it. And it was hard to discover how &#8220;wheelchair accessible&#8221; does not necessarily mean &#8220;wheelchair friendly.&#8221; I know at least one restaurant that, if I hadn&#8217;t been in the bathroom with her, she would have had a VERY hard time getting herself out of. </p>
<p>The biggest thing I&#8217;d ask other people is if you see us struggling with a door, please get up and hold it for us! (Though we got better at navigating tough doors the longer she was in the chair.) Some people did, but most people just ignored us. I promise not to chew anyone out for being helpful!</p>
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		<title>By: NTE</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/18/abliest-word-profile-wheelchair-bound/#comment-2880</link>
		<dc:creator>NTE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was trying to explain this in relation to last week&#039;s episode of Glee (which, I know is so well covered in many other posts, so I&#039;m going to try not to hijack the thread to talk about it here) &amp; how they just played into the &quot;Oh Noes: Wheelchairs!&quot; ableist attitude the whole time, instead of giving the characters a chance to realize that wow: Artie&#039;s wheelchair really enables him to participate in so many more things.  As a (majority of the time) chair user myself, I am always super aware of just how much more limited my life would be without it... As in, I can&#039;t walk, or stand unassisted, so ... would you like to hold college classes in my bedroom in order for me to get my degree? (Wow... that sounds a lot dirtier than it was meant: oops.) And Miriam - I think shoebound is a pretty apt comparison, and I hadn&#039;t thought of it like that before.
.-= NTE´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://neverthateasy.blogspot.com/2009/11/stepped-in-it-this-time.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stepped in it this time&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trying to explain this in relation to last week&#8217;s episode of Glee (which, I know is so well covered in many other posts, so I&#8217;m going to try not to hijack the thread to talk about it here) &amp; how they just played into the &#8220;Oh Noes: Wheelchairs!&#8221; ableist attitude the whole time, instead of giving the characters a chance to realize that wow: Artie&#8217;s wheelchair really enables him to participate in so many more things.  As a (majority of the time) chair user myself, I am always super aware of just how much more limited my life would be without it&#8230; As in, I can&#8217;t walk, or stand unassisted, so &#8230; would you like to hold college classes in my bedroom in order for me to get my degree? (Wow&#8230; that sounds a lot dirtier than it was meant: oops.) And Miriam &#8211; I think shoebound is a pretty apt comparison, and I hadn&#8217;t thought of it like that before.<br />
.-= NTE´s last blog ..<a href="http://neverthateasy.blogspot.com/2009/11/stepped-in-it-this-time.html" rel="nofollow">Stepped in it this time</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Quixotess</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/18/abliest-word-profile-wheelchair-bound/#comment-2876</link>
		<dc:creator>Quixotess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(This, of course, is influenced by the fact that I like Rick Mercer.)&quot;

He did grow on me as the video went on.  His humor didn&#039;t seem to be cruel, and he seemed genuinely interested in people (which only makes sense; you have to have enormous charisma to do a job like what he&#039;s doing.)

And &quot;I can&#039;t feel my legs&quot; was totally great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(This, of course, is influenced by the fact that I like Rick Mercer.)&#8221;</p>
<p>He did grow on me as the video went on.  His humor didn&#8217;t seem to be cruel, and he seemed genuinely interested in people (which only makes sense; you have to have enormous charisma to do a job like what he&#8217;s doing.)</p>
<p>And &#8220;I can&#8217;t feel my legs&#8221; was totally great.</p>
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		<title>By: limesarah</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/18/abliest-word-profile-wheelchair-bound/#comment-2875</link>
		<dc:creator>limesarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;i especially love it when people say (way more often than i care to say) that “wheelchairs are welcome at this event!” or “unfortunately, wheelchairs cannot access the space”, as though its just a wheelchair, no person, rolling into the room LOL.&lt;/i&gt;

The first one I could see as analagous to &quot;strollers are welcome at this event&quot;, where it would be addressed to the people bringing the objects, not to the objects themselves.  But the second, just no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>i especially love it when people say (way more often than i care to say) that “wheelchairs are welcome at this event!” or “unfortunately, wheelchairs cannot access the space”, as though its just a wheelchair, no person, rolling into the room LOL.</i></p>
<p>The first one I could see as analagous to &#8220;strollers are welcome at this event&#8221;, where it would be addressed to the people bringing the objects, not to the objects themselves.  But the second, just no.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadey</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/18/abliest-word-profile-wheelchair-bound/#comment-2863</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you to Quixotess for making the transcription and meloukhia for sharing it. Next time I will make a transcription myself or ask someone else who&#039;s willing.

Mercer also did something with a university wheelchair rugby team, but I haven&#039;t watched that one in full. It does continue the tradition of &quot;athletic&quot; (and, from the shots I saw, white too, although not exclusively male and high profile). I really enjoyed the video (hence sharing it), but had trouble assessing whether Mercer&#039;s constant interruptions and talking over Hansen was more about trying to get his obligatory jokes out, or how easy many abled-bodied people find it to talk over or ignore someone in a wheelchair. But Hansen&#039;s crack about not feeling his legs was too funny not to enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you to Quixotess for making the transcription and meloukhia for sharing it. Next time I will make a transcription myself or ask someone else who&#8217;s willing.</p>
<p>Mercer also did something with a university wheelchair rugby team, but I haven&#8217;t watched that one in full. It does continue the tradition of &#8220;athletic&#8221; (and, from the shots I saw, white too, although not exclusively male and high profile). I really enjoyed the video (hence sharing it), but had trouble assessing whether Mercer&#8217;s constant interruptions and talking over Hansen was more about trying to get his obligatory jokes out, or how easy many abled-bodied people find it to talk over or ignore someone in a wheelchair. But Hansen&#8217;s crack about not feeling his legs was too funny not to enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t quite sort out what I thought of the Rick Mercer report, but I have seen it a few times.  He does another one (I can&#039;t think of where I&#039;d find it right now, I&#039;m sorry) where he goes hiking with the Mayor of Vancouver, who was injured in some sort of skiing accident and is now paraplegic.  He still goes hiking, but again with the assistance of other people - four or five of his friends carry him in a sort of &lt;a href = &quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travois&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;travois&lt;/a&gt; he invented to allow him to still enjoy outdoor sports.

I&#039;m happy that someone as high profile and Canadian as Mercer puts time into showing that people with disabilities (well, in this case, both men, and both athletes, and both white, and both high profile, but you know what I mean, I hope) are still able to do such things, if that is their want.  (Certainly not everyone can - I can&#039;t imagine how Don would handle something like that, since he&#039;s got a chronic pain condition.)

I mean, there&#039;s baggage that comes with all of this, of course, but there&#039;s something to be said for it, too.  (This, of course, is influenced by the fact that I like Rick Mercer.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t quite sort out what I thought of the Rick Mercer report, but I have seen it a few times.  He does another one (I can&#8217;t think of where I&#8217;d find it right now, I&#8217;m sorry) where he goes hiking with the Mayor of Vancouver, who was injured in some sort of skiing accident and is now paraplegic.  He still goes hiking, but again with the assistance of other people &#8211; four or five of his friends carry him in a sort of <a href = "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travois" rel="nofollow">travois</a> he invented to allow him to still enjoy outdoor sports.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy that someone as high profile and Canadian as Mercer puts time into showing that people with disabilities (well, in this case, both men, and both athletes, and both white, and both high profile, but you know what I mean, I hope) are still able to do such things, if that is their want.  (Certainly not everyone can &#8211; I can&#8217;t imagine how Don would handle something like that, since he&#8217;s got a chronic pain condition.)</p>
<p>I mean, there&#8217;s baggage that comes with all of this, of course, but there&#8217;s something to be said for it, too.  (This, of course, is influenced by the fact that I like Rick Mercer.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/18/abliest-word-profile-wheelchair-bound/#comment-2857</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phedre,

Part of the reason we specifically talk about ableist language here instead of sexist language is because there are many feminist blogs and works and columns and books and videos and the like that talk about sexist language.  Our intent here is to apply both a feminist framework to disability-related discussions, and a disability rights framework to feminist discussions.

I personally think discussions about sexist language are very well covered elsewhere, but actual discussions of ableist language that offers both reasons and alternatives are not as common.  (They&#039;re out there, no doubt - no one here is blogging from within a vacuum or reinventing the wheel.)

If that doesn&#039;t answer your concerns, let me know, although I should note that this is a busy day for me (Oh, Wednesday, you hate me so), and thus I may not get back to you very quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phedre,</p>
<p>Part of the reason we specifically talk about ableist language here instead of sexist language is because there are many feminist blogs and works and columns and books and videos and the like that talk about sexist language.  Our intent here is to apply both a feminist framework to disability-related discussions, and a disability rights framework to feminist discussions.</p>
<p>I personally think discussions about sexist language are very well covered elsewhere, but actual discussions of ableist language that offers both reasons and alternatives are not as common.  (They&#8217;re out there, no doubt &#8211; no one here is blogging from within a vacuum or reinventing the wheel.)</p>
<p>If that doesn&#8217;t answer your concerns, let me know, although I should note that this is a busy day for me (Oh, Wednesday, you hate me so), and thus I may not get back to you very quickly.</p>
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