Comments on: A Few Relevant Posts on “Glee” http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/15/a-few-relevant-posts-on-glee/ FWD (feminists with disabilities) for a way forward Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:29:14 +0000 hourly 1 By: meloukhia http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/15/a-few-relevant-posts-on-glee/#comment-2827 meloukhia Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:14:07 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=1369#comment-2827 Another thing I would love see people adding to those discussions is the fact that disability activists have been criticizing <em>Glee</em> since the pilot aired, as Anna has discussed in previous posts on this topic. The mainstream media is acting like we've gotten riled up all of a sudden, and that's simply not the case! We've been riled all along, it's just that no one listened until now. Another thing I would love see people adding to those discussions is the fact that disability activists have been criticizing Glee since the pilot aired, as Anna has discussed in previous posts on this topic. The mainstream media is acting like we’ve gotten riled up all of a sudden, and that’s simply not the case! We’ve been riled all along, it’s just that no one listened until now.

]]> By: Jesse the K http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/15/a-few-relevant-posts-on-glee/#comment-2825 Jesse the K Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:52:25 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=1369#comment-2825 Fed up with GLEE? Let the world know! Take one talking point from this discussion and lay it out for readers here. Some hints: Don't flame: these readers won't have any context. Provide the context, connect the lines. Don't drop links; most open forum sites like these suppress linky posts as a spam-control measure. http://www.examiner.com/x-11363-Dallas-TV-Examiner~y2009m11d11-Glee-wheelchair-controversy-out-of-line-with-shows-themes http://hollywoodcrush.mtv.com/2009/11/12/glee-recap-episode-9-wheels/ http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/11/11/why-isnt-artie-on-glee-played-by-a-disabled-actor/ http://www.tvguide.com/News/Advocates-Disabled-Speak-1011865.aspx?rss=news&partnerid=spi&profileid=05#comments http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/10/glee-wheelchair-episode-u_n_352778.html Fed up with GLEE?

Let the world know! Take one talking point from this discussion and lay it out for readers here. Some hints:
Don’t flame: these readers won’t have any context.
Provide the context, connect the lines.
Don’t drop links; most open forum sites like these suppress linky posts as a spam-control measure.

http://www.examiner.com/x-11363-Dallas-TV-Examiner~y2009m11d11-Glee-wheelchair-controversy-out-of-line-with-shows-themes

http://hollywoodcrush.mtv.com/2009/11/12/glee-recap-episode-9-wheels/

http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/11/11/why-isnt-artie-on-glee-played-by-a-disabled-actor/

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Advocates-Disabled-Speak-1011865.aspx?rss=news&partnerid=spi&profileid=05#comments

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/10/glee-wheelchair-episode-u_n_352778.html

]]> By: Sasha_feather http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/15/a-few-relevant-posts-on-glee/#comment-2796 Sasha_feather Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:59:05 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=1369#comment-2796 This post has been included in a linkspam at <a href="http://access-fandom.dreamwidth.org/6070.html" rel="nofollow">Access_fandom</a>. Thank you! This post has been included in a linkspam at Access_fandom. Thank you!

]]> By: Anna http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/15/a-few-relevant-posts-on-glee/#comment-2608 Anna Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:01:44 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=1369#comment-2608 There are two characters who show up in this episode with Down's Syndrome, and both are played by actresses with Down's. One, Becky Johnson (the girl who tries out for the cheerleading squad), is played by <a href = "http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2373670/" rel="nofollow">Lauren Potter</a>. She's got one more scheduled appearance in Glee this season, although that may change now that Glee's been extended for nine more episodes. She has some previous acting experience. The other is played by <a href = "http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3665616/" rel="nofollow">Robin Trocki</a>, I believe. She is only credited with appearing in Glee, and is not scheduled to show up in any future episodes. I'm fairly certain she also had Down's Syndrome. I did read some interesting commentary on how having the two of them in the same episode made a comment about how different the life of people with Down's is now, compared to when Sue's sister would have been institutionalized. (I think that was in Terri's piece? It's quite late here, I should get to bed.) I think that's interesting and very subtle, if that's what they were going for. There are two characters who show up in this episode with Down’s Syndrome, and both are played by actresses with Down’s.

One, Becky Johnson (the girl who tries out for the cheerleading squad), is played by Lauren Potter. She’s got one more scheduled appearance in Glee this season, although that may change now that Glee’s been extended for nine more episodes. She has some previous acting experience.

The other is played by Robin Trocki, I believe. She is only credited with appearing in Glee, and is not scheduled to show up in any future episodes. I’m fairly certain she also had Down’s Syndrome.

I did read some interesting commentary on how having the two of them in the same episode made a comment about how different the life of people with Down’s is now, compared to when Sue’s sister would have been institutionalized. (I think that was in Terri’s piece? It’s quite late here, I should get to bed.) I think that’s interesting and very subtle, if that’s what they were going for.

]]> By: Este Yarmosh http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/15/a-few-relevant-posts-on-glee/#comment-2606 Este Yarmosh Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:38:43 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=1369#comment-2606 I'll admit I haven't watched this episode of "Glee" yet, but I'm anxious to so that I can critique it in my own mind, and for my own purposes as a person w/ a disability (I don't mean write about it, though). Anyway, in regards to the multitude of supporting characters with disabilities suddenly appearing on "Glee," I think that maybe the people behind "Glee" should focus on quality over quantity. In other words, they should choose fewer characters with disabilities so they have a chance to flesh them out into rounded, or three-dimensional, characters, instead of leaving them as sketchily-drawn caricatures of us; that's what it sounds like they're doing, anyhow. Also, I read that the supporting female character with Down's won't be a recurring role -- that's too bad; it's another missed opportunity to flesh out a disabled character. BTW, does the actress who plays the character with Down's have a disability? I’ll admit I haven’t watched this episode of “Glee” yet, but I’m anxious to so that I can critique it in my own mind, and for my own purposes as a person w/ a disability (I don’t mean write about it, though). Anyway, in regards to the multitude of supporting characters with disabilities suddenly appearing on “Glee,” I think that maybe the people behind “Glee” should focus on quality over quantity. In other words, they should choose fewer characters with disabilities so they have a chance to flesh them out into rounded, or three-dimensional, characters, instead of leaving them as sketchily-drawn caricatures of us; that’s what it sounds like they’re doing, anyhow. Also, I read that the supporting female character with Down’s won’t be a recurring role — that’s too bad; it’s another missed opportunity to flesh out a disabled character. BTW, does the actress who plays the character with Down’s have a disability?

]]> By: Sarah http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/15/a-few-relevant-posts-on-glee/#comment-2601 Sarah Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:09:38 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=1369#comment-2601 This thread is reminding me why I don't read TWoP recaps much anymore. The site is such a cesspool of hipster ableism/fatphobia/other isms. This thread is reminding me why I don’t read TWoP recaps much anymore. The site is such a cesspool of hipster ableism/fatphobia/other isms.

]]> By: Anna http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/15/a-few-relevant-posts-on-glee/#comment-2599 Anna Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:57:47 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=1369#comment-2599 There are two reviewers for Glee there. One of them did the mocking of her name (and then I stopped looking), and the other wrote out her stutter. There are two reviewers for Glee there. One of them did the mocking of her name (and then I stopped looking), and the other wrote out her stutter.

]]> By: Kaz http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/15/a-few-relevant-posts-on-glee/#comment-2598 Kaz Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:23:08 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=1369#comment-2598 This makes me :(. (And thank you for checking so I didn't have to!) But, you know, stuttering is totally fine and dandy and an excellent excuse to get out of doing things. You won't be discriminated against, ridiculed, humiliated, etc. at *all*. This makes me :( . (And thank you for checking so I didn’t have to!)

But, you know, stuttering is totally fine and dandy and an excellent excuse to get out of doing things. You won’t be discriminated against, ridiculed, humiliated, etc. at *all*.

]]> By: MK http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/15/a-few-relevant-posts-on-glee/#comment-2597 MK Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:21:49 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=1369#comment-2597 The "being disabled makes it more likely someone will hire you!" myth reminded me very strongly of the "minorities have an unfair advantage in the job market!" myth. "Minorities" referring to people of color, though I've never heard someone who made this claim use the term POC. The “being disabled makes it more likely someone will hire you!” myth reminded me very strongly of the “minorities have an unfair advantage in the job market!” myth. “Minorities” referring to people of color, though I’ve never heard someone who made this claim use the term POC.

]]> By: Anna http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/15/a-few-relevant-posts-on-glee/#comment-2596 Anna Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:59:09 +0000 http://disabledfeminists.com/?p=1369#comment-2596 Okay, I checked. If they had meant to mock Tina's faking of the stutter, Damian wouldn't have been doing it in his previous recaps, too. He's mocking her for having a stutter. Okay, I checked.

If they had meant to mock Tina’s faking of the stutter, Damian wouldn’t have been doing it in his previous recaps, too. He’s mocking her for having a stutter.

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