36 responses to “And if this keeps up, there won’t be any”

  1. kaninchenzero

    I have yet more reason to love The Wire, for avoiding the crip drag pitfall. One of the recurring characters, Butchie, is blind. He is played by an actor who is blind, S. Robert Morgan.

  2. nuri

    The whole SGU episode is just fail from beginning to end. There’s no telling just how many groups they’ve pissed off.

  3. wolfa

    Heroes has cast a Deaf actor (who was apparently the star on some other show as a Deaf FBI agent) as the Deaf character on their show, though I’d otherwise call their show a hodge podge of racism and sexism, with a side order of classism and heterosexism. (Not really that they’re much worse than many other shows, but they are worse than most shows with such a large ensemble cast — when you have 20 zillion characters, you can have some non-white ones who don’t die within a season and make the women actually important and interesting — and people keep claiming they’re better.)

    I believe they’ve done some miracle cures before, though.

  4. The White Lady

    Um…..I’m from the UK, and I didn’t know that north american shows cast wheelchair users as male and blind people as female, so does anybody know, or can anybody tell me, why that is? Is there a reason for that? Does it tie into the whole women-as-sex-objects thing?

    Back on topic, great post. I never knew there was a name for what Zhang Ziyi (house of flying daggers) and hugh laurie (house)did!

  5. The White Lady

    that’s very odd. And very insulting.

  6. lauren

    It seems that, except for disabilities with clearly visible indicators (trisomie21, brittle bones, little people), people see “no need” to cast actually disabled actors. Because hey, not only are they not famous, they would also need special accomodations. Who wants to have to take care of, let alone pay for that?

    The fact that there are a lot of great actors and actresses out there who won’t be cast because the casting directors do not think they should is very discouraging.

    At the same time, I think this discussion leads into the biger issue of what/ how much an actor/actress is allowed to pretend. Pretending to be something you are not is, after all, at the heart of that profession. We all agree that colour face is inexcuseable. Is “crip drag” any different? Where is the line? Can only someone who has dealt with depression play a character who is depressed? Can only a person with Aspergers believably portrait a character who also has Aspergers?

    One problem, it seems, is that these arguements can be used to take away chances to shine as actors from those who, due to being differently abled, already have a much narrower pool of roles to chose from- because the industry only acknowleges a limited number of disabilities, limits the characters with those disabilities to a very small number of story lines, and does not seem to be aware of all the other people, all the other stories out there.

    I would probably not take so much offence if a TaB-person playing a PwD was an occasional occurence. I think. But the fact that this is the norm, not the exception, is frustrating.

  7. Rainbow

    Crip drag, great to have a phrase for it and this post is so true, it’s disgustingly hypocritical to deny disabled people the opportunity to play disabled and non-disabled roles when I’m sure they wouldn’t be able to discriminate against other groups by totally denying them access to the acting profession. I think blindness is one of the few disabilities which is sexualised in the TAB tv and film world which means that, since women are so often primarily sex objects, that it’s one of the few disabilities they can give a female character and still make her ‘desirable, as long as she plays up to male fantasies by being kind, caring and gentle and of course totally helpless and waiting for some noble man to overlook her terrible affliction and save her! This is such a common trope in films and tv shows that I’m not sure there’s a more charitable way of looking at it than that, for some reason, it’s considered less desexualising than other disabilities, maybe because it’s not a ‘physical’ disability. There’s so much wrong with this assumption but it goes back a long way. Does anyone remember a film with Audrey Hepburn as a blind woman being stalked by a killer or something from the 1960s or The Red Dragon where the sadistic serial killer falls in love with a blind colleague then tries to kill her? I bring these up as examples because I think it shows that a blind woman can be used as a handy helpless victim in movies who will of course, need protection from the film’s male hero. As for why wheelchair users are almost always men, again I think it’s partially because of the ‘bitter cripple’ trope (women aren’t allowed to be bitter apparently!) and partially because men are often less sexualised on screen and therefore depicting them in a wheelchair won’t have the same negative effect. Also, there’s all the ‘bitter cripples’ who then go on to try and destroy the world, disabled bad guys are nearly always in wheelchairs and I think it’s jst not as popular to have female baddies. Anyway, this obviously all needs to change because the ableism on screen is disgusting and don’t even get me started on the miracle cure which has also been cropping up in a number of novels I’ve read recently, no escape!

  8. LeeLee

    I don’t have an issue with an actor playing a character with a disability that the actor does not share. But, I do have an issue with disabled actors being so rarely cast. If disabled actors were regularly cast, just like any other actor, in a variety of roles, I don’t think it would be a big deal if a disabled character were played by a non-disabled actor on occasion. Sadly, that’s not the case. Inexcusable, really.

    Years ago, I went to a production of A Christmas Carol at a smallish Equity house. As people filed out of the theatre afterwards, you could hear folks gushing about how fantastic the character of the narrator was, and also some bantering back and forth about whether the wheelchair was “real” or a prop. It was most certainly real – the actor was paralyzed. But the show, and his character, was an example of how to do it right when casting disabled actors. No token-ism, no stereotyping, no tired tropes. I’ve not seen anything like it since.

    Has anyone seen Jennifer Eight? There’s a lot of unsavory stuff going on in that film, if I am remembering it clearly.

    An aside – Audrey Niffenegger’s new book, Her Fearful Symmetry, has a major character who has OCD. Might make for an interesting discussion down the road – the book is excellent.

  9. Sarah

    This, so much. I recall seeing Richtenthal’s comments a few days ago and just being so frustrated with this mentality. It’s as though the entertainment industry is completely oblivious to its own exclusionary practices. And to me it kind of feels like a cop-out to say, “well, there are no Deaf and/or blind actresses, so obviously we had to hire someone else.” It’s punting responsibility, and it seems to me as though Richtenthal didn’t even consider hiring a Deaf and/or blind actress.
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  10. kaninchenzero

    It did seem very much to be a justification after the fact on Richtenthal’s part. “Oh shit I gotta come up with a reason? Um, ‘cos there aren’t any deaf and blind actors no can’t say that outright…”

  11. Mary

    Geri Jewell as Jewel in the show Deadwood is wonderful to watch. The character has cerebral palsy, and so does the actress. When I mentioned to a friend that the actress was a comedienne and motivational speaker when she wasn’t acting, my friend was surprised to hear that the actress really had the disability her character had. To see a person with a disability onscreen os so rare it hadn’t even occurred to my friend as an option.

  12. lauren

    Something else to take into consideration:
    The fact that so many ablebodied actors are cast to play disabled characters can also contribute to ableism in another way. I am not sure how many people actually do this, but theoretically, TAB people could look at the actors playing disabled characters and think that hey, disability is easy to fake. Therefore, why not asume that a lot of people IRL are faking it? After all, everybody knows how much easier you have it when you are disabled. *eyeroll*

    I have not actually heard this specific arguement before, but all those people who are constantly worried about “fakers” have to get their ideas somewhere, right?

    I am discouraging myself a lot by following these kinds of thoughts.

  13. KatieT

    At least this way we aren’t subjected to articles about how the actor/actress has “overcome” their disability and become successful “despite” their horrible awful “problem”.

    This is meant sarcastically – just in case you couldn’t tell :)
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  14. lilacsigil

    what Zhang Ziyi (house of flying daggers)

    SPOILER

    Does it count if the character is not, in fact, blind, and is not presented as blind for most of the movie?

    END SPOILER

    Yeah, I think the idea that all disabled people are in crip drag (and we could get better if we behaved like character X) tends to come from this. Professor Xavier in the X-Men films is another one, but he complicates things yet again by being able-bodied in his own mind – which, while canon-consistent, opens up yet another big squirmy bag of worms.

  15. Mia

    for some reason [blindness]’s considered less desexualising than other disabilities, maybe because it’s not a ‘physical’ disability.

    Or rather, it is a physical disability that can be easily masked by a pair of sunglasses, and signified by walking around with your hands out or carrying a white cane or a guide dog harness. There are blind people who have eyes that move strangely, don’t focus, are irregularly formed, and I’d think all of that would qualify as physical things. Also, it’s easier to sexualize blind women (on TV and in movies) because they might be some of the only women who can’t tell when they’re being watched.

  16. Sami

    I’ve seen a bit into the fifth or sixth season of West Wing, and as far as I saw, yeah, Marlee Matlin’s character actually remained in the “happens to be deaf” category. To the extent that the degree to which she was Unexpected was that the character who was surprised by her had expected her to be a man – the only way her disability plays into this is that he thought her interpreter was, in fact, her.

    This confusion was also played as being a mildly embarrassing faux pas for the guy making the error.

    Her character is spectacularly good at her job and her disability is not central at all. I liked it a lot. (She’s been one of my favourite actresses since I was twelve, so I was thrilled to see her turn up in a show I was watching already.)

    The tragic thing, of course, being that I can’t think of *another* example of this kind of thing.

  17. Norah

    This reminds me of a film I saw recently, I think it was a short one, where a woman has faceblindness (only it was strangely explained, like she saw nothing at all instead of eyes and noses and such), and her boyfriend is really a stalker who has watched her in her workplace, in crowds, etc etc, and , without her noticing it, eventually made himself her boyfriend and kept bumping in to her in different roles to see if she’d notice, and eventually he reveals it all to her and he kills her.

    A lot bothered me about that film, but what bothered me most was how incompetent the film made her out to be, as if faces (and maybe stuff on faces like beards or bangs etc.) are the only thing to recognise people by. They also have different heights, bodyshapes, mannerisms, stances, voices, smells, etc. All her killer had to do was wear a fake beard and maybe change his clothes for her to not recognise him, even though she had been narrated as having had this all her life and having learned how to compensate. He didn’t even change his voice or bothered masking his natural body odour or his mannerisms or whatever.
    I forgot what it was called though or where I saw it.

  18. The White Lady

    @lilacsigil – yeah, I think it does count.

    SPOILER WARNING

    Because it isn’t as simple as ‘the character isn’t actually blind’ it is a major plot point in the movie that she *is* blind, and the entire plan to folllow her and find out where the assassins are is formulate on the premise that she is blind.

    END SPOILER WARNING

    I think it is a double whammy for a sighted actress to pretend that she is blind for most of a movie and then reveal that she was in fact sighted all along. I don’t carry a cane all the time. Are people going to remember Zhang Ziyi, and assume that I am only pretending when I am carrying a cane?

  19. SamanthaD

    So here’s a twist: what about people who have disabilities where those disabilities have changing presentations and where the presentation of the disability impacts the role? For example, I have a tic disorder, should I be preferred over someone without a tic disorder for a character who has, say, Tourette’s or choreia over someone else who doesn’t? The catch being that while I tic, I (obviously) can’t control how my tics present themselves. Just something to think about, one of those grey areas.

    TBQH, when it comes to myself and my own condition, what really concerns me is whether or not the actor/ess portrays my disability realistically.

  20. Kaz

    @SamanthaD:

    I’m really not sure how well this works to compare, but I stutter and I’ve often seen people mention that that might be related to Tourette’s because there are some similarities in how it presents itself. And personally, one of the things that annoys me about the portrayal of stutterers in TV (…well there’s also, you know, the horrible negative stereotypes, the tendency to portray it as symptomatic of negative character trait of your choice instead of a disability, the making fun of, the magical curing and all that but apart from that) is that I can often spot a fake stutter immediately and other stutterers are even better at it. If you live day-in and day-out with this kind of thing, even though the way it presents is always highly individual and differs extremely from person to person, you do get a kind of feel for what it’s like and can often see when people are doing it voluntarily or not putting any pressure behind it. As a result, I would *really* want to see stuttering characters played by stuttering actors, not just because of what has been mentioned but because that’s the only way to /get/ it to be realistic (and even if the stutterer in question doesn’t usually stutter all that often, I think it’s a lot easier for a stutterer to fake-stutter when they normally wouldn’t and make that sound real – in fact, it ironically enough often becomes real! – than for a non-stutterer to fake a stutter).

    It does get tricky if they don’t just want “a stutterer” but “someone who will stutter on X, Y and Z words in order to facilitate this plot point.” Then again, I would argue that a disability shouldn’t be reduced to a single plot point anyway (why hello, Doctor Who, I am looking at you!)

    I imagine this isn’t all that unusual for various disabilities, in fact – that people with the disability in question can often tell when it’s being faked. And, you know, I find the fact that crip drag is used *anyway* very telling – namely, that it doesn’t matter to the people developing the TV show/movie whether PWD find it realistic or not (or are tempted to throw their TV against the wall on account of the horrible portrayal) as long as the currently-abled audience laps it up.
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  21. MomTFH

    This prompted me to look up whether the actor who played Stevie on Malcolm in the Middle was really paraplegic or asthmatic. Since his IMDb page says he enjoys Krunk Bump Dancing and can play all types of roles, not just ones like Stevie (aka I am not disabled, please hire me for other roles now), I am assuming either he had a real-life miracle where he can suddenly dance, or he was in crip drag. I always had a secret hope it wasn’t the case.
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  22. etana

    A million times thank you. Crip-drag is such a wonderful new term and I think it puts to bed a lot of arguments regarding “isn’t that just acting” we hear from folks protesting the uproar over casting able-bodied folks as disabled people in film & television. I can’t for the life of me come up with better than what you’ve done here.
    Amazingness and link-spammed :)
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  23. Brilla

    So, does everyone think Hugh Laurie as Dr. House is problematic? Because, frankly, I just can’t imagine the character being played by anyone else than him. I wonder if that’s my failing? It may well be.

  24. Brilla

    Anna: Thanks for your answer! Do you mean because of the way the character “Dr. House” is portrayed, and not because he’s played by an able-bodied actor? I’m new to reading about disability activism, but can see how he’s not exactly the best image of a PWD. However, he’s, well, funny. He’s certainly portrayed as someone who was always misfit, not just after he got his disability. And I enjoy the show. Right now I have mixed feelings about that.

    As for the actor being able-bodied, I have no idea if he’s doing an accurate portrayal of someone using a cane in daily life. I’ve used crutches and a wheelchair, but both for only some weeks, so I can’t really pick up if he’s believable of not.

    If you or someone can point out more detailed reasons why the character of House is problematic, from disability activism point of view, I’d be grateful and I promise I’ll give it a thought! I googled Dr. House and “crip drag”, but did not find much (except this page again). I know this may be a 101 question, but those were welcome in this thread, right? :-)

  25. kaninchenzero

    Mr. Laurie is not using a cane correctly when playing Dr. House — the cane goes in the hand opposite from the leg that requires support. I expect they have him do it that way because it exaggerates the way he moves. I recall hearing, though not where, that he’s developed back pain from the improper cane use from the role.

    There are other posts at this very site that address why House-the-show and House-the-character are problematic. The search box at the top of the page should lead you to them. The short version is that those of us with chronic pain conditions who use opioid analgesics as part of (or the entirety of) a pain management regimen are ill-served by that being the popular conception in the U.S. It’s not that he’s an asshole. The portrayal makes our lives more difficult.

  26. Brilla

    Thanks for your answers! I’m a bit embarrassed now for not finding those two threads in this very same blog…!

    A lot of good points were made in both threads, and I’ll think about them some more. I have some comments myself, but as they pertain to the pain management issue and how it’s represented in the TV show, rather than to able-bodied actor acting House, I’ll comment in the old House thread.

    As for Hugh Laurie acting House, I guess I’ll have to go along with what others have pointed out in this thread. I also think it wouldn’t be a problem if an able-bodied actor occasionally acts a PWD, as long as there were plenty of actors with disabilities who also played characters with disabilities. And as long as there were actors with disabilities who played other roles not specifically centered on disability, too. If that’s how things were, then it would be a lot safer to assume that the best auditioner actually did get the role.

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  28. Hariette

    In response to #8 Lauren I would respectfully disagree with you as it relates to characters with dwarfism/short stature. In all of the Lord of the Ring films the characters’ sizes were manipulated by CGI. In the film Tiptoes the lead role of Rolfe was played by Gary Oldman. In Baz Luhrmann’s Moulin Rogue Henri Toulouse-Lautrec was played by John Leguizamo who famously did the pre-release interviews talking about how difficult it was for him to have to film on his knees.
    The roles for PWD are few & far between and because of scarcity of them I do take offense to Crip Drag. Coupled with the fact that casting directors can’t seem to understand that PWD are married, have families, are neighbors and a vast other roles that we “play” in real life but never in reel-life. For the working actors out there you say a good role is hard to find? Try it from our POV.

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