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		<title>By: Icca</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/some-partially-formed-thoughts-on-size-and-disability/#comment-1821</link>
		<dc:creator>Icca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely love the idea that no one is under any obligation to be healthy.  Thanks for linking!  

This post is really helpful in looking at body acceptance (and also acceptance on all ranges of mind and mood typicality - my most salient disability falls here.)  I&#039;ve been telling people about it since I read it yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely love the idea that no one is under any obligation to be healthy.  Thanks for linking!  </p>
<p>This post is really helpful in looking at body acceptance (and also acceptance on all ranges of mind and mood typicality &#8211; my most salient disability falls here.)  I&#8217;ve been telling people about it since I read it yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: Quixotess</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/some-partially-formed-thoughts-on-size-and-disability/#comment-1801</link>
		<dc:creator>Quixotess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG! Hooray for this post!

&quot;Some people argue that it’s better to focus on small steps, like getting society to accept fat people, before introducing people to the idea that there are different kinds of fat people with different kinds of needs.&quot;

This is crap. This is total crap. Activist history is riddled with these promises. And it never, never, never gets to the second step. That&#039;s not change, that&#039;s not solidarity, that&#039;s just narcissistic activism so that the fatties at the top can have the same privileges as the skinnies at the top. If there was one thing I could tell new activists, one message I could press on their minds, it would be /Do not accept part in or give support to any movement that tells you to wait your turn./

&quot;Sizeism may not be as entrenched in the disability community as ableism is in the size acceptance movement, but it’s there.&quot;

How have you been measuring this?
.-= Quixotess´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://reconciliate.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/scholastic-achievement/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scholastic Achievement&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! Hooray for this post!</p>
<p>&#8220;Some people argue that it’s better to focus on small steps, like getting society to accept fat people, before introducing people to the idea that there are different kinds of fat people with different kinds of needs.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is crap. This is total crap. Activist history is riddled with these promises. And it never, never, never gets to the second step. That&#8217;s not change, that&#8217;s not solidarity, that&#8217;s just narcissistic activism so that the fatties at the top can have the same privileges as the skinnies at the top. If there was one thing I could tell new activists, one message I could press on their minds, it would be /Do not accept part in or give support to any movement that tells you to wait your turn./</p>
<p>&#8220;Sizeism may not be as entrenched in the disability community as ableism is in the size acceptance movement, but it’s there.&#8221;</p>
<p>How have you been measuring this?<br />
<span class="cluv"> Quixotess´s last blog ..<a href="http://reconciliate.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/scholastic-achievement/" rel="nofollow">Scholastic Achievement</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://disabledfeminists.com/fwd/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Bri</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/some-partially-formed-thoughts-on-size-and-disability/#comment-1786</link>
		<dc:creator>Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I don&#039;t identify as disabled as such (something I am thinking on a lot since reading FWD)I suffer with chronic depression and anxiety and have been medicated for more years than I care to remember. Luckily, I have been doing well for several years now and have a medication regime that is working for me (for the moment, as you know, it can be prone to change!). So I have &#039;mental health issues&#039; and I am fat. I get SO sick of my fat being blamed for my depression and anxiety. If anything it is more the other way, the meds havent been great in terms in of weight gain. But I am constantly told if I lost weight I wouldn&#039;t need the meds yada yada yada. Because yeah, losing weight would immediately rectify the chemical imbalance in my brain...  I have also been told (by a surgeon) that if I got a gastric band it would &#039;cure the depression&#039;. Yep, CURE IT. Unbelievable. I don&#039;t get depressed about being fat. I get angry about the way society treats fat people yeah but if the world around me wasn&#039;t so obsessed with weight, I wouldn&#039;t be worrying about it (or wouldnt have worried about it so much in the past). For the most part, I have a great life. I am the happiest I have ever been and I am also the fattest I have ever been. Being thin is not going to get rid of my depression, if anything, when I was an average weight, I was more depressed than I was as a fatty. But of course, every malady I ever have is blamed on my weight - from a bone spur on my right index finger, to ear infections, sore throats and the gall bladder attacks I had when I did lose some weight. Because fat is the root of all evil. Yup. The mind boggles.
.-= Bri´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fatlotofgood.org.au/?p=251&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fluff (yes, I know it’s Wednesday not Friday…)&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#8217;t identify as disabled as such (something I am thinking on a lot since reading FWD)I suffer with chronic depression and anxiety and have been medicated for more years than I care to remember. Luckily, I have been doing well for several years now and have a medication regime that is working for me (for the moment, as you know, it can be prone to change!). So I have &#8216;mental health issues&#8217; and I am fat. I get SO sick of my fat being blamed for my depression and anxiety. If anything it is more the other way, the meds havent been great in terms in of weight gain. But I am constantly told if I lost weight I wouldn&#8217;t need the meds yada yada yada. Because yeah, losing weight would immediately rectify the chemical imbalance in my brain&#8230;  I have also been told (by a surgeon) that if I got a gastric band it would &#8216;cure the depression&#8217;. Yep, CURE IT. Unbelievable. I don&#8217;t get depressed about being fat. I get angry about the way society treats fat people yeah but if the world around me wasn&#8217;t so obsessed with weight, I wouldn&#8217;t be worrying about it (or wouldnt have worried about it so much in the past). For the most part, I have a great life. I am the happiest I have ever been and I am also the fattest I have ever been. Being thin is not going to get rid of my depression, if anything, when I was an average weight, I was more depressed than I was as a fatty. But of course, every malady I ever have is blamed on my weight &#8211; from a bone spur on my right index finger, to ear infections, sore throats and the gall bladder attacks I had when I did lose some weight. Because fat is the root of all evil. Yup. The mind boggles.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Bri´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.fatlotofgood.org.au/?p=251" rel="nofollow">Fluff (yes, I know it’s Wednesday not Friday…)</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://disabledfeminists.com/fwd/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: vesta44</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/some-partially-formed-thoughts-on-size-and-disability/#comment-1775</link>
		<dc:creator>vesta44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the OMGDEATHFATZ range, and disabled (I just got my Rollator walker so I can get out and do more with my husband), so this post really hit home with me. I fall somewhere in between the good fatties and bad fatties and don&#039;t really care. My numbers that count with the doctor, other than my weight, are all good (and my doctor knows better than to bring up my weight anymore unless I&#039;ve lost/gained a lot in a short amount of time). I figure I&#039;m healthy, other than the fibromyalgia, arthritis, and severe lower back pain I have.
I know when some people see me using the electric cart at WallyWorld, they think it&#039;s because I&#039;m this fat, lazy broad who should just get up and walk, but I can guarantee you that if they had to deal with the pain I have when I&#039;m walking &amp; shopping, they&#039;d be using the electric cart too. That&#039;s a case of an invisible disability, because it&#039;s not one you can obviously see. Well, you can see it if I have to walk a lot - I start limping, then my legs cramp, and if I can&#039;t find a place to sit, I fall down (and I stay down until I&#039;m not in so much pain anymore, then I get up, no use in getting up when I&#039;m still in a lot of pain, I&#039;ll just fall again).
Disability and FA intersect every day for me, I just don&#039;t always talk about it. Maybe I should blog about it more often.........
.-= vesta44´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://bigfatdelicious.blogspot.com/2009/10/exposed-to-flu-and-pneumonia-and-im.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Exposed to the flu and pneumonia and I&#039;m still not sick&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the OMGDEATHFATZ range, and disabled (I just got my Rollator walker so I can get out and do more with my husband), so this post really hit home with me. I fall somewhere in between the good fatties and bad fatties and don&#8217;t really care. My numbers that count with the doctor, other than my weight, are all good (and my doctor knows better than to bring up my weight anymore unless I&#8217;ve lost/gained a lot in a short amount of time). I figure I&#8217;m healthy, other than the fibromyalgia, arthritis, and severe lower back pain I have.<br />
I know when some people see me using the electric cart at WallyWorld, they think it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m this fat, lazy broad who should just get up and walk, but I can guarantee you that if they had to deal with the pain I have when I&#8217;m walking &amp; shopping, they&#8217;d be using the electric cart too. That&#8217;s a case of an invisible disability, because it&#8217;s not one you can obviously see. Well, you can see it if I have to walk a lot &#8211; I start limping, then my legs cramp, and if I can&#8217;t find a place to sit, I fall down (and I stay down until I&#8217;m not in so much pain anymore, then I get up, no use in getting up when I&#8217;m still in a lot of pain, I&#8217;ll just fall again).<br />
Disability and FA intersect every day for me, I just don&#8217;t always talk about it. Maybe I should blog about it more often&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
<span class="cluv"> vesta44´s last blog ..<a href="http://bigfatdelicious.blogspot.com/2009/10/exposed-to-flu-and-pneumonia-and-im.html" rel="nofollow">Exposed to the flu and pneumonia and I&#8217;m still not sick</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://disabledfeminists.com/fwd/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: KatieT</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/some-partially-formed-thoughts-on-size-and-disability/#comment-1774</link>
		<dc:creator>KatieT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes!  Thanks so much for this post.  First of all I just want to give a big fat shout out to intersectionality.  All our identities impact each other so much that it is super important to talk about them in relation to each other like this poster and most of the commenters have done.  Bravo.

I am actually hoping to go to law school with a focus in disability studies and civil rights to work in some sort of FA capacity.  Disability studies (in a legal context) provides an established framework to talk about fat stuff (they are both about body diversity).  I don&#039;t necessarily think this is the best approach for &quot;total liberation&quot; but I would like to get my fat stiff fingers into this part of the law.

I&#039;ve identified as fat for a long time but my disability is relatively new.  Since it involves needing a lot of rest and having mobility issues I often assume that people are thinking &quot;oh, she&#039;s not disabled, she&#039;s just fat which is why she can&#039;t keep up&quot; (My own IO - internalized oppression - says the same thing.)  Even though I am totally fine with not being able to keep up &quot;just&quot; because I&#039;m fat.  I feel like I have too much to say about this to be coherent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes!  Thanks so much for this post.  First of all I just want to give a big fat shout out to intersectionality.  All our identities impact each other so much that it is super important to talk about them in relation to each other like this poster and most of the commenters have done.  Bravo.</p>
<p>I am actually hoping to go to law school with a focus in disability studies and civil rights to work in some sort of FA capacity.  Disability studies (in a legal context) provides an established framework to talk about fat stuff (they are both about body diversity).  I don&#8217;t necessarily think this is the best approach for &#8220;total liberation&#8221; but I would like to get my fat stiff fingers into this part of the law.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve identified as fat for a long time but my disability is relatively new.  Since it involves needing a lot of rest and having mobility issues I often assume that people are thinking &#8220;oh, she&#8217;s not disabled, she&#8217;s just fat which is why she can&#8217;t keep up&#8221; (My own IO &#8211; internalized oppression &#8211; says the same thing.)  Even though I am totally fine with not being able to keep up &#8220;just&#8221; because I&#8217;m fat.  I feel like I have too much to say about this to be coherent.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse the K</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/some-partially-formed-thoughts-on-size-and-disability/#comment-1773</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes yes yes.

I was &quot;morbidly obese&quot; but then found out I was celiac; changed my diet and lost 20% of my weight. Now I&#039;m just &quot;overweight.&quot; And since 90% of my friends are fat I feel guilty for losing weight.

Wheelchair designers model their stuff around the &quot;average person&quot; (i.e, 180#, 5&#039;8&quot;, male). The equipment available for fatter wheelchair users is flimsy and uncomfortable.

This Disability Studies Quarterly article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dsq-sds.org/article/view/150/150&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Resistance Training: Re-reading Fat Embodiment at a Women&#039;s Gym&lt;/a&gt; is by Margaret Shalma, from an undergraduate disability studies class. In addition to raising some of the same questions we&#039;ve been kicking around here, she provides a play-by-play examination of how she undid some of the disablist and sexist programming in her own head. Also, a bunch of references for those who like libraries.

&lt;i&gt;Disability studies is the academic home of disability rights theorizing across all academic fields: DS thinkers work in literature, philosophy, medicine, media studies, and so forth. DSQ is available &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dsq-sds.org/index&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;free, on line.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
.-= Jesse the K´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://jesse-the-k.dreamwidth.org/55178.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PSA: Don&#039;t Tug the Magsafe from your Macbook&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes yes yes.</p>
<p>I was &#8220;morbidly obese&#8221; but then found out I was celiac; changed my diet and lost 20% of my weight. Now I&#8217;m just &#8220;overweight.&#8221; And since 90% of my friends are fat I feel guilty for losing weight.</p>
<p>Wheelchair designers model their stuff around the &#8220;average person&#8221; (i.e, 180#, 5&#8217;8&#8243;, male). The equipment available for fatter wheelchair users is flimsy and uncomfortable.</p>
<p>This Disability Studies Quarterly article <a href="http://www.dsq-sds.org/article/view/150/150" rel="nofollow">Resistance Training: Re-reading Fat Embodiment at a Women&#8217;s Gym</a> is by Margaret Shalma, from an undergraduate disability studies class. In addition to raising some of the same questions we&#8217;ve been kicking around here, she provides a play-by-play examination of how she undid some of the disablist and sexist programming in her own head. Also, a bunch of references for those who like libraries.</p>
<p><i>Disability studies is the academic home of disability rights theorizing across all academic fields: DS thinkers work in literature, philosophy, medicine, media studies, and so forth. DSQ is available <a href="http://www.dsq-sds.org/index" rel="nofollow">free, on line.</a></i><br />
<span class="cluv"> Jesse the K´s last blog ..<a href="http://jesse-the-k.dreamwidth.org/55178.html" rel="nofollow">PSA: Don&#8217;t Tug the Magsafe from your Macbook</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://disabledfeminists.com/fwd/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Electrogirl</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/some-partially-formed-thoughts-on-size-and-disability/#comment-1767</link>
		<dc:creator>Electrogirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel sort of on the edges, so to speak, of both fat and disability. When it comes to fat, I&#039;m an &#039;inbetweenie&#039;; sometimes I wear extra-large misses&#039; clothes and sometimes I wear 1X or 2X plus sizes. If I bring up my weight, loved ones almost invariably tell me, &quot;Oh, you&#039;re not THAT big!&quot;. (If I&#039;m talking with my mother, this is followed up by, &quot;But you do need to lose some weight.&quot;)

When it comes to disability, I have epilepsy. Granted, it&#039;s a severe form that has so far laughed at all attempts to control it. I have seizures several times a day. But when I&#039;m not having a seizure, I&#039;m able-bodied.

Right now, one way in which my fat and disability intersect is exercise. Overheating is a major seizure trigger for me. Last time I was on the treadmill, I overheated despite all my best efforts (huge fan, air conditioning, wet towel on the neck) and had a seizure. On a moving treadmill. It&#039;s a miracle that all I got was a few bruises. I used to love swimming with my family until I had a seizure in the water and nobody was looking my way. Fortunately my sister noticed before I started inhaling water, but it was still damn scary.

So, I don&#039;t exercise regularly. It&#039;s hard to find something I can do and there&#039;s always a niggling fear of having a seizure while I do exercise. I feel bad admitting this. After all, I can get up and move around. Do I really count as disabled? Do I really count as fat? People tell me that I do, but I feel guilty accepting it. It&#039;s that whole &quot;but other people have it so much worse than you do, you should just get over yourself, your problems don&#039;t really count and YOU ARE JUST LAZY, ELECTROGIRL&quot; complex. Sigh. It&#039;s illogical, but I can&#039;t seem to get rid of that mindset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sort of on the edges, so to speak, of both fat and disability. When it comes to fat, I&#8217;m an &#8216;inbetweenie&#8217;; sometimes I wear extra-large misses&#8217; clothes and sometimes I wear 1X or 2X plus sizes. If I bring up my weight, loved ones almost invariably tell me, &#8220;Oh, you&#8217;re not THAT big!&#8221;. (If I&#8217;m talking with my mother, this is followed up by, &#8220;But you do need to lose some weight.&#8221;)</p>
<p>When it comes to disability, I have epilepsy. Granted, it&#8217;s a severe form that has so far laughed at all attempts to control it. I have seizures several times a day. But when I&#8217;m not having a seizure, I&#8217;m able-bodied.</p>
<p>Right now, one way in which my fat and disability intersect is exercise. Overheating is a major seizure trigger for me. Last time I was on the treadmill, I overheated despite all my best efforts (huge fan, air conditioning, wet towel on the neck) and had a seizure. On a moving treadmill. It&#8217;s a miracle that all I got was a few bruises. I used to love swimming with my family until I had a seizure in the water and nobody was looking my way. Fortunately my sister noticed before I started inhaling water, but it was still damn scary.</p>
<p>So, I don&#8217;t exercise regularly. It&#8217;s hard to find something I can do and there&#8217;s always a niggling fear of having a seizure while I do exercise. I feel bad admitting this. After all, I can get up and move around. Do I really count as disabled? Do I really count as fat? People tell me that I do, but I feel guilty accepting it. It&#8217;s that whole &#8220;but other people have it so much worse than you do, you should just get over yourself, your problems don&#8217;t really count and YOU ARE JUST LAZY, ELECTROGIRL&#8221; complex. Sigh. It&#8217;s illogical, but I can&#8217;t seem to get rid of that mindset.</p>
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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/some-partially-formed-thoughts-on-size-and-disability/#comment-1749</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s in my head a lot too. I was extremely sick a few years ago and lost a lot of weight, and I was consistently praised for it even though I looked unhealthy (sallow skin, losing hair, etc). The consistent reinforcement of &quot;thinner is always better&quot; is so unhealthy, and it&#039;s really, really frustrating when that comes from medical professionals who are supposed to be caring about your health. To be told, by a doctor, that you should try and maintain weight loss caused by illness...I finally started refusing weigh ins whenever I visited the doctor, which resolved a lot of those problems, but still. 

All of these comments are illustrating how much intersectionality there is between disability activism and size acceptance, in all sorts of directions. There are a lot of constructs colliding here and it&#039;s really interesting to explore them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s in my head a lot too. I was extremely sick a few years ago and lost a lot of weight, and I was consistently praised for it even though I looked unhealthy (sallow skin, losing hair, etc). The consistent reinforcement of &#8220;thinner is always better&#8221; is so unhealthy, and it&#8217;s really, really frustrating when that comes from medical professionals who are supposed to be caring about your health. To be told, by a doctor, that you should try and maintain weight loss caused by illness&#8230;I finally started refusing weigh ins whenever I visited the doctor, which resolved a lot of those problems, but still. </p>
<p>All of these comments are illustrating how much intersectionality there is between disability activism and size acceptance, in all sorts of directions. There are a lot of constructs colliding here and it&#8217;s really interesting to explore them.</p>
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		<title>By: kaninchenzero</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/some-partially-formed-thoughts-on-size-and-disability/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>kaninchenzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very much a fat acceptance and healthy at any size supporter though I&#039;m currently approaching the intersection of disability and fat acceptance from the other side.  &quot;Currently&quot; because for a while I was on a meds regimen where the side effects had made me gain sixty-some pounds.  This resulted in my grandmother telling me I was fatty fat fatterson and how &lt;em&gt;awful&lt;/em&gt; it made her feel to see me so fatacular every time she spoke to me.  (Now I&#039;m skinny she&#039;s telling me my meds are making me sick.  It&#039;s always something.)

Now I&#039;m on a meds regimen where the side effects include weight loss.  My chronic pain condition is being really painful and I don&#039;t feel like eating a whole lot.  So a lot of the weight I gained on the previous meds when I was hurting less has come off.  This makes me both skinny and &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; unhealthy.  My blood pressure is still high, my blood lipids profile is still ghastly.  It&#039;s permanently ghastly and I think I get it from my father&#039;s side of the family; even in years I was vegetarian and drinking my coffee with soy milk the numbers didn&#039;t change significantly.  I haven&#039;t done any of the things we&#039;re supposed to do to become skinnier healthier prettier less offensive to the senses of people who actually matter.  I get less exercise than I have in the past.  I don&#039;t go out of my way to eat approved foods (though I have a hard time remembering to eat at all; on okay days I might eat twice).  I don&#039;t weigh myself to see what my &#039;progress&#039; is.  I know what my weight is because I&#039;m at the office of a doctor who wants to know my weight at least once a month.

I still get social cookies for it.  Even from my GP who should know better.  I hate it.  I try to tell people who tell me how great I look &quot;I didn&#039;t do anything, I don&#039;t deserve praise for it, &lt;em&gt;this isn&#039;t healthy&lt;/em&gt;&quot; but the myth that skinny equals healthy is so ingrained I don&#039;t know how much I&#039;m heard.  I worry a lot about what my losing weight communicates to other people; does the apparent ease with which I&#039;ve become (unhealthy and) thin come with a big mess of shame?  (I had a lot of the same guilt and anxiety about how little I had to do about my appearance when I started transitioning -- the gap between internal and asserted gender identity and perceived gender identity is sometimes very large for trans people, especially trans women.)

Many of the people I love most in the world are fat and I love their fat because it&#039;s part of them.  (I&#039;d love their less-fat if they lost weight too because that would be part of them.  If they became a fat-hater after losing weight the way so many former smokers become anti-smoking zealots that might be a problem.)  My wife is a fat woman and she&#039;s gorgeous and sexy and pretty and desirable and she doesn&#039;t think of herself as any of those things.  She&#039;s worked really hard for years to lose weight.  I worry that she considers herself a failure for not losing it when I did.  Relationships aren&#039;t and shouldn&#039;t be therapy but I hope I help her feel attractive and desirable at least sometimes.

Gah.  Many many words, sorry.  This is in my head a lot.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very much a fat acceptance and healthy at any size supporter though I&#8217;m currently approaching the intersection of disability and fat acceptance from the other side.  &#8220;Currently&#8221; because for a while I was on a meds regimen where the side effects had made me gain sixty-some pounds.  This resulted in my grandmother telling me I was fatty fat fatterson and how <em>awful</em> it made her feel to see me so fatacular every time she spoke to me.  (Now I&#8217;m skinny she&#8217;s telling me my meds are making me sick.  It&#8217;s always something.)</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m on a meds regimen where the side effects include weight loss.  My chronic pain condition is being really painful and I don&#8217;t feel like eating a whole lot.  So a lot of the weight I gained on the previous meds when I was hurting less has come off.  This makes me both skinny and <em>really</em> unhealthy.  My blood pressure is still high, my blood lipids profile is still ghastly.  It&#8217;s permanently ghastly and I think I get it from my father&#8217;s side of the family; even in years I was vegetarian and drinking my coffee with soy milk the numbers didn&#8217;t change significantly.  I haven&#8217;t done any of the things we&#8217;re supposed to do to become skinnier healthier prettier less offensive to the senses of people who actually matter.  I get less exercise than I have in the past.  I don&#8217;t go out of my way to eat approved foods (though I have a hard time remembering to eat at all; on okay days I might eat twice).  I don&#8217;t weigh myself to see what my &#8216;progress&#8217; is.  I know what my weight is because I&#8217;m at the office of a doctor who wants to know my weight at least once a month.</p>
<p>I still get social cookies for it.  Even from my GP who should know better.  I hate it.  I try to tell people who tell me how great I look &#8220;I didn&#8217;t do anything, I don&#8217;t deserve praise for it, <em>this isn&#8217;t healthy</em>&#8221; but the myth that skinny equals healthy is so ingrained I don&#8217;t know how much I&#8217;m heard.  I worry a lot about what my losing weight communicates to other people; does the apparent ease with which I&#8217;ve become (unhealthy and) thin come with a big mess of shame?  (I had a lot of the same guilt and anxiety about how little I had to do about my appearance when I started transitioning &#8212; the gap between internal and asserted gender identity and perceived gender identity is sometimes very large for trans people, especially trans women.)</p>
<p>Many of the people I love most in the world are fat and I love their fat because it&#8217;s part of them.  (I&#8217;d love their less-fat if they lost weight too because that would be part of them.  If they became a fat-hater after losing weight the way so many former smokers become anti-smoking zealots that might be a problem.)  My wife is a fat woman and she&#8217;s gorgeous and sexy and pretty and desirable and she doesn&#8217;t think of herself as any of those things.  She&#8217;s worked really hard for years to lose weight.  I worry that she considers herself a failure for not losing it when I did.  Relationships aren&#8217;t and shouldn&#8217;t be therapy but I hope I help her feel attractive and desirable at least sometimes.</p>
<p>Gah.  Many many words, sorry.  This is in my head a lot.<br />
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a real issue in my family. I have rheumatoid arthritis (diagnosed when I was about two years old) and have spent most of my 21 years on steroids. I recently had a surgery which my mother had about 10 years ago for the same condition. The ways we were treated were very different though because my mother was fat when she had the surgery and I wasn&#039;t. My mum got lectured by a string of doctors, nurses and physiotherapists, even though her weight was related to her disability, and was generally made to feel like an irresponsible slob whereas I got loads of sympathy and &#039;oh it&#039;s such a shame you have to have this surgery so young&#039; (annoying too but that&#039;s a different story!)  Because of seeing the horrible way my mother was treated and knowing about   the weight gain that can be an aspect of long term steroid use I have acquired a mild eating disorder though I only recently recognised it as such, I&#039; believed that what I was doing was just (protecting&#039; myself from getting fat by limiting my calorie intake and purging if I go over my daily calorie allowance for any reason, but, in the long-run, though I fit some arbitrary idea of &#039;healthy weight&#039; I&#039;m also left with a troubled relationship with food and more worryingly a damaged digestive system and all because I didn&#039;t want to be &#039;blamed&#039; and guilt-tripped for causing or worsening my disability in the way my mom was, and,, I&#039;m ashamed to say that perhaps a part of me believed the doctors (I know my mother did) and that if I stayed slim I might be ok. Ultimately all the weight-watching didn&#039;t prevent me from needing the same treatment as my mother, just another way that the &#039;fat people with disabilities are disabled because they&#039;re fat&#039; trope can be damaging for the people who firmly believe that eating healthily and exercising and never getting fat will magically protect them from ever becoming sick or disabled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a real issue in my family. I have rheumatoid arthritis (diagnosed when I was about two years old) and have spent most of my 21 years on steroids. I recently had a surgery which my mother had about 10 years ago for the same condition. The ways we were treated were very different though because my mother was fat when she had the surgery and I wasn&#8217;t. My mum got lectured by a string of doctors, nurses and physiotherapists, even though her weight was related to her disability, and was generally made to feel like an irresponsible slob whereas I got loads of sympathy and &#8216;oh it&#8217;s such a shame you have to have this surgery so young&#8217; (annoying too but that&#8217;s a different story!)  Because of seeing the horrible way my mother was treated and knowing about   the weight gain that can be an aspect of long term steroid use I have acquired a mild eating disorder though I only recently recognised it as such, I&#8217; believed that what I was doing was just (protecting&#8217; myself from getting fat by limiting my calorie intake and purging if I go over my daily calorie allowance for any reason, but, in the long-run, though I fit some arbitrary idea of &#8216;healthy weight&#8217; I&#8217;m also left with a troubled relationship with food and more worryingly a damaged digestive system and all because I didn&#8217;t want to be &#8216;blamed&#8217; and guilt-tripped for causing or worsening my disability in the way my mom was, and,, I&#8217;m ashamed to say that perhaps a part of me believed the doctors (I know my mother did) and that if I stayed slim I might be ok. Ultimately all the weight-watching didn&#8217;t prevent me from needing the same treatment as my mother, just another way that the &#8216;fat people with disabilities are disabled because they&#8217;re fat&#8217; trope can be damaging for the people who firmly believe that eating healthily and exercising and never getting fat will magically protect them from ever becoming sick or disabled.</p>
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