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	<title>Comments on: Ableist Word Profile: Scab</title>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/ableist-word-profile-scab/#comment-1997</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always understood the term scab in the &quot;covering up the wound&quot; context others have mentioned here. 

However, I was never a fan of the term simply because it is a derogatory term, and often the people taking the jobs the strikers have vacated are rather desperate for any money they can earn, thanks to a whole different set of outrageous injustices than the strikers are dealing with, and the whole thing smacks of the &quot;divide and conquer&quot; strategy the privileged use to pit less privileged groups against each other.

In other words, I&#039;m not sure this is a word that SHOULD be replaced at all.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always understood the term scab in the &#8220;covering up the wound&#8221; context others have mentioned here. </p>
<p>However, I was never a fan of the term simply because it is a derogatory term, and often the people taking the jobs the strikers have vacated are rather desperate for any money they can earn, thanks to a whole different set of outrageous injustices than the strikers are dealing with, and the whole thing smacks of the &#8220;divide and conquer&#8221; strategy the privileged use to pit less privileged groups against each other.</p>
<p>In other words, I&#8217;m not sure this is a word that SHOULD be replaced at all.<br />
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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/ableist-word-profile-scab/#comment-1833</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This what makes &quot;scab&quot; such a challenging word to profile; I haven&#039;t heard any sort of replacement for it. &quot;Strikebreaker&quot; just doesn&#039;t cut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This what makes &#8220;scab&#8221; such a challenging word to profile; I haven&#8217;t heard any sort of replacement for it. &#8220;Strikebreaker&#8221; just doesn&#8217;t cut it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m a bit embarrassed to admit that I never really connected the dots with this word, but now that I have, I’m eliminating it from my word use.&lt;/i&gt;

Same here - I&#039;m a trade union activist in the UK, and I&#039;m very familiar with &quot;scab&quot; as synonymous with someone who crosses a picket line/labour brought in to break a strike.  I&#039;ll be watching this entry with interest, because I can&#039;t think of anything which might substitute but which has the force of scab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m a bit embarrassed to admit that I never really connected the dots with this word, but now that I have, I’m eliminating it from my word use.</i></p>
<p>Same here &#8211; I&#8217;m a trade union activist in the UK, and I&#8217;m very familiar with &#8220;scab&#8221; as synonymous with someone who crosses a picket line/labour brought in to break a strike.  I&#8217;ll be watching this entry with interest, because I can&#8217;t think of anything which might substitute but which has the force of scab.</p>
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		<title>By: romham</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/ableist-word-profile-scab/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator>romham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to anyone in particular:
&quot;Scab&quot; is pretty commonplace in labour circles and beyond out here on the west coast of canada. It has a very specific meaning, that &quot;strikebreaker&quot; simply doesnt convey. 

Just to clarify, the &quot;scab&quot; isnt the strike itself. The &quot;scab&quot; is someone (a worker) who allows themselves to be used by the company to cover up the &quot;wound&quot; of unfair wages, shitty (if any) benefits, hour cuts, etc etc by stepping in and doing the job of striking workers. The issues are definitely overlapping, and complex. Shit is virtually never cut and dry, and is usually laced pretty intensely with racism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to anyone in particular:<br />
&#8220;Scab&#8221; is pretty commonplace in labour circles and beyond out here on the west coast of canada. It has a very specific meaning, that &#8220;strikebreaker&#8221; simply doesnt convey. </p>
<p>Just to clarify, the &#8220;scab&#8221; isnt the strike itself. The &#8220;scab&#8221; is someone (a worker) who allows themselves to be used by the company to cover up the &#8220;wound&#8221; of unfair wages, shitty (if any) benefits, hour cuts, etc etc by stepping in and doing the job of striking workers. The issues are definitely overlapping, and complex. Shit is virtually never cut and dry, and is usually laced pretty intensely with racism.</p>
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		<title>By: debbie</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/ableist-word-profile-scab/#comment-1828</link>
		<dc:creator>debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post. As for it being an American term, I have definitely heard it used in this context in much of English-speaking Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. As for it being an American term, I have definitely heard it used in this context in much of English-speaking Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: PharaohKatt</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/ableist-word-profile-scab/#comment-1808</link>
		<dc:creator>PharaohKatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauredhel: I confess, I am not. As I said, I have limited experience, as well as limited workforce experience. Now that I know of this usage I&#039;ll probably hear it around a lot more.

All of which isn&#039;t to say that the ableist connotations don&#039;t apply. Clearly they do. A word doesn&#039;t suddenly lose the connotations just because someone is unaware of them.

As far as scab used in the borrowing money context: do you think this has the same sort of ableist connotations? Possibly class connotations as well as ableist ones; someone who needs to borrow (or scab) money is of a lower social class, and thus more likely to have infected sores etc. So, same connotations really, just used in a different context.
(Sorry if I&#039;m rambly, I&#039;m a little short on spoons right now).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauredhel: I confess, I am not. As I said, I have limited experience, as well as limited workforce experience. Now that I know of this usage I&#8217;ll probably hear it around a lot more.</p>
<p>All of which isn&#8217;t to say that the ableist connotations don&#8217;t apply. Clearly they do. A word doesn&#8217;t suddenly lose the connotations just because someone is unaware of them.</p>
<p>As far as scab used in the borrowing money context: do you think this has the same sort of ableist connotations? Possibly class connotations as well as ableist ones; someone who needs to borrow (or scab) money is of a lower social class, and thus more likely to have infected sores etc. So, same connotations really, just used in a different context.<br />
(Sorry if I&#8217;m rambly, I&#8217;m a little short on spoons right now).<br />
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/ableist-word-profile-scab/#comment-1807</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in Nova Scotia, and there are quite a few unions, but it may be that I&#039;ve never heard it because I&#039;ve mostly read news reports of the various strikes as opposed to being around the picketers.  My mother is a union member, but &quot;scab&quot; is definitely not a word she would use in this context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in Nova Scotia, and there are quite a few unions, but it may be that I&#8217;ve never heard it because I&#8217;ve mostly read news reports of the various strikes as opposed to being around the picketers.  My mother is a union member, but &#8220;scab&#8221; is definitely not a word she would use in this context.</p>
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		<title>By: lauredhel</title>
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		<dc:creator>lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Scab&quot; is definitely used in Australia, quite a lot, and Google suggests that it&#039;s a common usage in the UK also. Are the commenters who are unaware of this usage very familiar with socialist/labour activism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Scab&#8221; is definitely used in Australia, quite a lot, and Google suggests that it&#8217;s a common usage in the UK also. Are the commenters who are unaware of this usage very familiar with socialist/labour activism?</p>
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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/ableist-word-profile-scab/#comment-1803</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Maia, I am well aware of the origins of scab and the fact that &quot;strikebreaker&quot; does not, at all, convey the same message. 

But...one of the reasons that &quot;scab&quot; carries such a strong message is because it is ableist, and I&#039;d like to find a forceful alternative which adequately describes these kinds of people which does not add to the marginalization of people with disabilities. I don&#039;t see how using language which hurts me and people like me to insult a group of people I find offensive is at all productive. 

Much as &quot;bitch&quot; carries a very strong and loaded context, which is why some people prefer to see &quot;woman&quot; to &quot;bitch&quot; because &quot;bitch&quot; is a word which has been used to marginalize and control women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maia, I am well aware of the origins of scab and the fact that &#8220;strikebreaker&#8221; does not, at all, convey the same message. </p>
<p>But&#8230;one of the reasons that &#8220;scab&#8221; carries such a strong message is because it is ableist, and I&#8217;d like to find a forceful alternative which adequately describes these kinds of people which does not add to the marginalization of people with disabilities. I don&#8217;t see how using language which hurts me and people like me to insult a group of people I find offensive is at all productive. </p>
<p>Much as &#8220;bitch&#8221; carries a very strong and loaded context, which is why some people prefer to see &#8220;woman&#8221; to &#8220;bitch&#8221; because &#8220;bitch&#8221; is a word which has been used to marginalize and control women.</p>
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		<title>By: PharaohKatt</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/11/04/ableist-word-profile-scab/#comment-1797</link>
		<dc:creator>PharaohKatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maia: I&#039;ve never heard the word &quot;scab&quot; used as &quot;strikebreaker&quot; before. When I think of it, I think of scabbed knees. I have heard it used for people borrowing money from mates, eg. &quot;Can I scab some money off you?&quot; but not for strikebreaker before. I can&#039;t seem to make the connection between them. 
I wonder also if strikebreaking is the same thing here as it is in the US, with the same connotations? In my experience it hasn&#039;t been, but I have limited experience.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maia: I&#8217;ve never heard the word &#8220;scab&#8221; used as &#8220;strikebreaker&#8221; before. When I think of it, I think of scabbed knees. I have heard it used for people borrowing money from mates, eg. &#8220;Can I scab some money off you?&#8221; but not for strikebreaker before. I can&#8217;t seem to make the connection between them.<br />
I wonder also if strikebreaking is the same thing here as it is in the US, with the same connotations? In my experience it hasn&#8217;t been, but I have limited experience.<br />
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