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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/31/so-theres-this-conversation-with-my-pharmacist/#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this, kaninchenzero. There are huge barriers to access in healthcare in general for trans people. I do not understand how denial of treatment/medications/care to trans people is not treated (and prosecuted) as the clear discrimination that it is. There is &lt;em&gt;no good reason&lt;/em&gt; for a state-funded healthcare program to exclude low income people who qualify for its services on the basis of their gender identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this, kaninchenzero. There are huge barriers to access in healthcare in general for trans people. I do not understand how denial of treatment/medications/care to trans people is not treated (and prosecuted) as the clear discrimination that it is. There is <em>no good reason</em> for a state-funded healthcare program to exclude low income people who qualify for its services on the basis of their gender identity.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrid</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/31/so-theres-this-conversation-with-my-pharmacist/#comment-1507</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Netherlands, the health system is generally good, but I&#039;m not sure if birth control is covered under &quot;basic&quot; insurance (the insurance required for every resident). Back when this system was first implemented in 2005/2006, BC wasn&#039;t covered after age 21 (what is that in your birthday cake that makes you not need BC anymore after 21?). I have additional coverage (not sure what for, but my insurance company offered me this plan in 2005/2006 and if you drop it and need it later, you&#039;ll be turned down) and am institutionalized (in which case drugs may be covered that otherwise wouldn&#039;t be), so I have no clue what my birth control gets paid from, but not my pocket at least. I also have no clue how much the pharmacy is supplying at a time, but I don&#039;t care since it&#039;s the nurses picking it up anyway. All other women I know get three-month supplies.
.-= Astrid´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://astridvanwoerkom.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/socialist-party-may-no-longer-keep-its-members-salaries/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Socialist Party May No Longer Keep Its Members’ Salaries&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Netherlands, the health system is generally good, but I&#8217;m not sure if birth control is covered under &#8220;basic&#8221; insurance (the insurance required for every resident). Back when this system was first implemented in 2005/2006, BC wasn&#8217;t covered after age 21 (what is that in your birthday cake that makes you not need BC anymore after 21?). I have additional coverage (not sure what for, but my insurance company offered me this plan in 2005/2006 and if you drop it and need it later, you&#8217;ll be turned down) and am institutionalized (in which case drugs may be covered that otherwise wouldn&#8217;t be), so I have no clue what my birth control gets paid from, but not my pocket at least. I also have no clue how much the pharmacy is supplying at a time, but I don&#8217;t care since it&#8217;s the nurses picking it up anyway. All other women I know get three-month supplies.<br />
.-= Astrid´s last blog ..<a href="http://astridvanwoerkom.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/socialist-party-may-no-longer-keep-its-members-salaries/" rel="nofollow">Socialist Party May No Longer Keep Its Members’ Salaries</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/31/so-theres-this-conversation-with-my-pharmacist/#comment-1505</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, it&#039;s a consistent problem at any pharmacy because there are systemic problems, rather than pharmacy-specific. All pharmacies assume that everyone coming in is on a plan of some kind, which means that I will have to step through repeatedly telling them that I am not each time not matter where I go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, it&#8217;s a consistent problem at any pharmacy because there are systemic problems, rather than pharmacy-specific. All pharmacies assume that everyone coming in is on a plan of some kind, which means that I will have to step through repeatedly telling them that I am not each time not matter where I go.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi (lilwatchergirl)</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/31/so-theres-this-conversation-with-my-pharmacist/#comment-1503</link>
		<dc:creator>Naomi (lilwatchergirl)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any way you can change pharmacies? This is surely the kind of situation that could improve through market forces - much as I&#039;m not usually keen on marketized healthcare!
.-= Naomi (lilwatchergirl)´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://lilwatchergirl.blogspot.com/2009/11/nablopomo.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NaBloPoMo&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way you can change pharmacies? This is surely the kind of situation that could improve through market forces &#8211; much as I&#8217;m not usually keen on marketized healthcare!<br />
.-= Naomi (lilwatchergirl)´s last blog ..<a href="http://lilwatchergirl.blogspot.com/2009/11/nablopomo.html" rel="nofollow">NaBloPoMo</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/31/so-theres-this-conversation-with-my-pharmacist/#comment-1500</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was pretty thrilled when my local PP instituted an automatic-billing mail-my-pack-once-a-month option, which made it one trip a year.*  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a very widespread option, though.  So much of the stuff around birth control is utterly ridiculous. And insurance covering birth control--ahahaha.

*Of course, I found out about this shortly before I ended up going off HBC because I&#039;d finally realized that many of my health problems were, in fact, unacceptable side effects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pretty thrilled when my local PP instituted an automatic-billing mail-my-pack-once-a-month option, which made it one trip a year.*  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a very widespread option, though.  So much of the stuff around birth control is utterly ridiculous. And insurance covering birth control&#8211;ahahaha.</p>
<p>*Of course, I found out about this shortly before I ended up going off HBC because I&#8217;d finally realized that many of my health problems were, in fact, unacceptable side effects.</p>
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		<title>By: amandaw</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/31/so-theres-this-conversation-with-my-pharmacist/#comment-1497</link>
		<dc:creator>amandaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I have &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; insurance. And a choice of plans through his employer. But because the benefits are union-contracted, if something isn&#039;t covered, you can&#039;t just keep fighting and get it -- it just plain &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t covered&lt;/i&gt;. And IUDs are one of those things -- it&#039;s not a matter of each plan not covering it; it&#039;s the benefit fund deciding it&#039;s not covered based on whatever deals the union made last time they drew up a contract, so the insurance companies each have to abide by that.

So I have no choice in the matter. At all.

Well, except to get it financed, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I have <i>good</i> insurance. And a choice of plans through his employer. But because the benefits are union-contracted, if something isn&#8217;t covered, you can&#8217;t just keep fighting and get it &#8212; it just plain <i>isn&#8217;t covered</i>. And IUDs are one of those things &#8212; it&#8217;s not a matter of each plan not covering it; it&#8217;s the benefit fund deciding it&#8217;s not covered based on whatever deals the union made last time they drew up a contract, so the insurance companies each have to abide by that.</p>
<p>So I have no choice in the matter. At all.</p>
<p>Well, except to get it financed, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/31/so-theres-this-conversation-with-my-pharmacist/#comment-1496</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, amandaw, this makes me...ugh. It&#039;s of course part of the historic denial of birth control services (back in those halcyon days when I had insurance I was paying out of pocket for birth control), and...good god. Even with a doctor clearly saying that&#039;s necessary, advised, etc, they are still denying it? That makes me flaming mad. And it&#039;s just more reinforcement of the fact that people fortunate enough to have insurance in this country aren&#039;t exactly luxuriating in benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, amandaw, this makes me&#8230;ugh. It&#8217;s of course part of the historic denial of birth control services (back in those halcyon days when I had insurance I was paying out of pocket for birth control), and&#8230;good god. Even with a doctor clearly saying that&#8217;s necessary, advised, etc, they are still denying it? That makes me flaming mad. And it&#8217;s just more reinforcement of the fact that people fortunate enough to have insurance in this country aren&#8217;t exactly luxuriating in benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: amandaw</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/31/so-theres-this-conversation-with-my-pharmacist/#comment-1494</link>
		<dc:creator>amandaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was lucky -- the Planned Parenthood I visited in Santa Ana just gave me a brown bag with a 12 month supply of Ortho Tri Cyclin Lo. For nothing. Granted, the pill caused really awful angry mood swings, acne and bleeding, and I had to quit after a couple months toughing it out (got on a pill that did me very well up til my endo started getting too bad) and all those extra packs went to waste. But still...

I want an IUD, and cannot get one. I will have to write on that. Suffice to say the insurance industry is fucked up. The ONE treatment that is highly effective for endometriosis with none of the side effects of the other effective treatments (GNRH antagonists, which stop production of estrogen, producing a state of synthetic menopause so to speak, and bringing with it the hot flashes and bone density loss and high risk for developing osteoporosis) they don&#039;t fucking cover even for medical necessity. And I don&#039;t get a &quot;choice&quot; -- free market my squishy ass -- I either pony up the $600 (but they have financing! ooh!) or don&#039;t get it and suffer through the pain.

Bleah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was lucky &#8212; the Planned Parenthood I visited in Santa Ana just gave me a brown bag with a 12 month supply of Ortho Tri Cyclin Lo. For nothing. Granted, the pill caused really awful angry mood swings, acne and bleeding, and I had to quit after a couple months toughing it out (got on a pill that did me very well up til my endo started getting too bad) and all those extra packs went to waste. But still&#8230;</p>
<p>I want an IUD, and cannot get one. I will have to write on that. Suffice to say the insurance industry is fucked up. The ONE treatment that is highly effective for endometriosis with none of the side effects of the other effective treatments (GNRH antagonists, which stop production of estrogen, producing a state of synthetic menopause so to speak, and bringing with it the hot flashes and bone density loss and high risk for developing osteoporosis) they don&#8217;t fucking cover even for medical necessity. And I don&#8217;t get a &#8220;choice&#8221; &#8212; free market my squishy ass &#8212; I either pony up the $600 (but they have financing! ooh!) or don&#8217;t get it and suffer through the pain.</p>
<p>Bleah.</p>
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		<title>By: kaninchenzero</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/31/so-theres-this-conversation-with-my-pharmacist/#comment-1493</link>
		<dc:creator>kaninchenzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m also just going to go ahead and assume that the program is also cissexist and finds a way to deny benefits to trans folks who are transitioning/post transition.&lt;/i&gt;

I would be profoundly surprised if it were &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; cissexist.  Every the health insurance policy I have ever had has had a clause in the EXCLUSIONS section specifically excluding treatment related to anything trans.  On the even more evil than usual end of things this has included the denial of coverage for treatment of ovarian/cervical/uterine/breast cancers for trans women and testicular/penile cancers for trans men; because those are parts that some trans people would like to have removed as part of their physical transitions, hysterectomies, oophorectomies, mastectomies, orchiectomies aren&#039;t covered even if they would be medically indicated for non-trans people who had those organs.  And because radio and chemo are expensive therapies they deny coverage for those because they&#039;re not going to cover anything that has to do with those parts &lt;em&gt;at all&lt;/em&gt;.  Because medical care related to being trans is fundamentally cosmetic and elective.

I&#039;d imagine the FamilyPACT would justify their anti-trans policies (presuming they have them) by pointing out that they have very limited resources available (which is true) and there aren&#039;t a lot of trans people (maybe there&#039;d be more if the world weren&#039;t so violently opposed to our existence) so they have to put their money where it will do the most good.  It&#039;s not personal or anything, and they&#039;ve got nothing &lt;em&gt;against&lt;/em&gt; trans folk, they just don&#039;t have the training to know what to do with them and the budget&#039;s so tight and why are you freaks worried about reproducing anyway aren&#039;t y&#039;all sterile from taking hormones imported from Mexico already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m also just going to go ahead and assume that the program is also cissexist and finds a way to deny benefits to trans folks who are transitioning/post transition.</i></p>
<p>I would be profoundly surprised if it were <em>not</em> cissexist.  Every the health insurance policy I have ever had has had a clause in the EXCLUSIONS section specifically excluding treatment related to anything trans.  On the even more evil than usual end of things this has included the denial of coverage for treatment of ovarian/cervical/uterine/breast cancers for trans women and testicular/penile cancers for trans men; because those are parts that some trans people would like to have removed as part of their physical transitions, hysterectomies, oophorectomies, mastectomies, orchiectomies aren&#8217;t covered even if they would be medically indicated for non-trans people who had those organs.  And because radio and chemo are expensive therapies they deny coverage for those because they&#8217;re not going to cover anything that has to do with those parts <em>at all</em>.  Because medical care related to being trans is fundamentally cosmetic and elective.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d imagine the FamilyPACT would justify their anti-trans policies (presuming they have them) by pointing out that they have very limited resources available (which is true) and there aren&#8217;t a lot of trans people (maybe there&#8217;d be more if the world weren&#8217;t so violently opposed to our existence) so they have to put their money where it will do the most good.  It&#8217;s not personal or anything, and they&#8217;ve got nothing <em>against</em> trans folk, they just don&#8217;t have the training to know what to do with them and the budget&#8217;s so tight and why are you freaks worried about reproducing anyway aren&#8217;t y&#8217;all sterile from taking hormones imported from Mexico already?</p>
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		<title>By: Lexin</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/31/so-theres-this-conversation-with-my-pharmacist/#comment-1492</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Naamah &lt;i&gt;Our local Planned Parenthood was (and for all I know still is) an evil joke, and not only refused to give me more than one month’s supply, but kept dunning me for tests I did not need, could not afford, and which triggered me into fits of sobbing that lasted hours.&lt;/i&gt;

Though the NHS is a wonderful thing (@ &lt;b&gt;Icy bear&lt;/b&gt;, birth control is free in the UK.  It just is.  Rejoice) my local Family Planning Clinic (UK equivalent to Planned Parenthood) is just useless if you need an alternative to the contraceptive pill.  

It took them months to be convinced that I needed an IUCD (coil) called a Mirena fitted.  It reduces blood flow to almost nothing as I was constantly anaemic and didn&#039;t take to the pill terribly well, but has to be fitted by an expert, your local doctor probably won&#039;t do.  Their struggle seemed to be based around the fact that they couldn&#039;t understand (a) why a woman not in a sexual relationship would attend a Family Planning clinic and (b) why she&#039;d choose that particular method.  How many times did I have to repeat, &quot;I hate what the pill does to me, I&#039;m fat enough already.&quot;  Too many to count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Naamah <i>Our local Planned Parenthood was (and for all I know still is) an evil joke, and not only refused to give me more than one month’s supply, but kept dunning me for tests I did not need, could not afford, and which triggered me into fits of sobbing that lasted hours.</i></p>
<p>Though the NHS is a wonderful thing (@ <b>Icy bear</b>, birth control is free in the UK.  It just is.  Rejoice) my local Family Planning Clinic (UK equivalent to Planned Parenthood) is just useless if you need an alternative to the contraceptive pill.  </p>
<p>It took them months to be convinced that I needed an IUCD (coil) called a Mirena fitted.  It reduces blood flow to almost nothing as I was constantly anaemic and didn&#8217;t take to the pill terribly well, but has to be fitted by an expert, your local doctor probably won&#8217;t do.  Their struggle seemed to be based around the fact that they couldn&#8217;t understand (a) why a woman not in a sexual relationship would attend a Family Planning clinic and (b) why she&#8217;d choose that particular method.  How many times did I have to repeat, &#8220;I hate what the pill does to me, I&#8217;m fat enough already.&#8221;  Too many to count.</p>
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