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		<title>By: Tera</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/22/shifting-the-responsibility-for-disability-in-uniform/#comment-1035</link>
		<dc:creator>Tera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, ginmar,

&lt;blockquote&gt;The VA’s guidelines for PTSD say that there has to be a precipitating event...We were guiding along a few dozen civvies, and one of them had a video camera. The VA initially refused to view the video, then reluctantly did so, then said, “So…did you have a traumatic childhood?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What the flying *fuck?!* 

(Sorry I have nothing more coherent to say. But...jebus. Grrr).
.-= Tera´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://sweetperdition.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/rosemary/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rosemary&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, ginmar,</p>
<blockquote><p>The VA’s guidelines for PTSD say that there has to be a precipitating event&#8230;We were guiding along a few dozen civvies, and one of them had a video camera. The VA initially refused to view the video, then reluctantly did so, then said, “So…did you have a traumatic childhood?”</p></blockquote>
<p>What the flying *fuck?!* </p>
<p>(Sorry I have nothing more coherent to say. But&#8230;jebus. Grrr).<br />
.-= Tera´s last blog ..<a href="http://sweetperdition.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/rosemary/" rel="nofollow">Rosemary</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ouyang Dan</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/22/shifting-the-responsibility-for-disability-in-uniform/#comment-1033</link>
		<dc:creator>Ouyang Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeebuz, ginmar.

Everytime I have to interact w/ the VA, I think of you and all the shit I have read that you have been through (your name precedes you).  I am only beginning to scratch the surface of starting the VA half of the process, I am still dealing w/ how I feel after basically being told to fuck off from the military side of it all.  If I wasn&#039;t married to a current AD Sailor I know that I would be fucked right now...I make no mistake in knowing how privileged I am my daughter are there.  

The thing w/ &quot;precipitating event&quot; is that it seems that they make it intentionally vague...don&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeebuz, ginmar.</p>
<p>Everytime I have to interact w/ the VA, I think of you and all the shit I have read that you have been through (your name precedes you).  I am only beginning to scratch the surface of starting the VA half of the process, I am still dealing w/ how I feel after basically being told to fuck off from the military side of it all.  If I wasn&#8217;t married to a current AD Sailor I know that I would be fucked right now&#8230;I make no mistake in knowing how privileged I am my daughter are there.  </p>
<p>The thing w/ &#8220;precipitating event&#8221; is that it seems that they make it intentionally vague&#8230;don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: ginmar</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/22/shifting-the-responsibility-for-disability-in-uniform/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>ginmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The VA&#039;s guidelines for PTSD say that there has to be a precipitating event. In my case, the event was a 22-hour suicidal firefight that left six people dead, used up our ammo down to the last few mags, and pitted us 40 against 800 insurgents. 

 It was also filmed. We were guiding along a few dozen civvies, and one of them had a video camera. 

 The VA inititally refused to view the video, then reluctantly did so, then said, &quot;So...did you have a traumatic childhood?&quot; 

I had to have a root canal this week because the VA either didn&#039;t read my file or just didn&#039;t give a shit. A month ago I went in for a toothache; they gave me penicillin. Two weeks ago, the toothache came back and even vicodin didn&#039;t make it better. The VA&#039;s blood pressure machines wouldn&#039;t work, they didn&#039;t get an accurate temp, and so I had to suffer for three days. By the time they deigned to see me, I had a high fever, sky-high blood pressure, a red and grotesquely swollen face, and eyes clouded with blood. The tooth had gotten infected and an abscess had formed. When they drained it, the doctor estimated that they&#039;d cleared out a tablespoon and a half from the abscess. All this because the ER staff---I was the only patient---just didn&#039;t give a shit. Two weeks of utter agony. That pretty much sums up my experiences with the VA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The VA&#8217;s guidelines for PTSD say that there has to be a precipitating event. In my case, the event was a 22-hour suicidal firefight that left six people dead, used up our ammo down to the last few mags, and pitted us 40 against 800 insurgents. </p>
<p> It was also filmed. We were guiding along a few dozen civvies, and one of them had a video camera. </p>
<p> The VA inititally refused to view the video, then reluctantly did so, then said, &#8220;So&#8230;did you have a traumatic childhood?&#8221; </p>
<p>I had to have a root canal this week because the VA either didn&#8217;t read my file or just didn&#8217;t give a shit. A month ago I went in for a toothache; they gave me penicillin. Two weeks ago, the toothache came back and even vicodin didn&#8217;t make it better. The VA&#8217;s blood pressure machines wouldn&#8217;t work, they didn&#8217;t get an accurate temp, and so I had to suffer for three days. By the time they deigned to see me, I had a high fever, sky-high blood pressure, a red and grotesquely swollen face, and eyes clouded with blood. The tooth had gotten infected and an abscess had formed. When they drained it, the doctor estimated that they&#8217;d cleared out a tablespoon and a half from the abscess. All this because the ER staff&#8212;I was the only patient&#8212;just didn&#8217;t give a shit. Two weeks of utter agony. That pretty much sums up my experiences with the VA.</p>
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		<title>By: Ouyang Dan</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/22/shifting-the-responsibility-for-disability-in-uniform/#comment-805</link>
		<dc:creator>Ouyang Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thetroubleis:  Write to him.  Write to him a lot, and let him know that you support him (even if you don&#039;t support the war).  Send him bits from home and mundane news.  Encourage him and tell him that you are sure things suck, but that it&#039;s going to be awesome soon, and that no matter what you are proud.  Tell him what movies you liked and tidbits of news or about sports teams or whatever he liked, because he is totally shut off from the world.  It helps.  Send pictures and stuff and keep it light, and when he is done with basic, my best advice is to make a copy of everything.  Every time a slip of paper goes into a record from his hands, copy it first and keep it in a file at home, because shit disappears and no one cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thetroubleis:  Write to him.  Write to him a lot, and let him know that you support him (even if you don&#8217;t support the war).  Send him bits from home and mundane news.  Encourage him and tell him that you are sure things suck, but that it&#8217;s going to be awesome soon, and that no matter what you are proud.  Tell him what movies you liked and tidbits of news or about sports teams or whatever he liked, because he is totally shut off from the world.  It helps.  Send pictures and stuff and keep it light, and when he is done with basic, my best advice is to make a copy of everything.  Every time a slip of paper goes into a record from his hands, copy it first and keep it in a file at home, because shit disappears and no one cares.</p>
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		<title>By: Ouyang Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ouyang Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vesta, Kaninchenzero, and Leelee:

It is worlds different with a physical disability that you can point to and say &quot;See?&quot;, because the doctors are more likely to believe you (general &quot;you&quot;).  If there is a blood test or a scan for it then it is a lot easier to get support from the doctors in the Active Duty system.  Please note that I am talking specifically here about the DoD side, not the DoVA side, which is two entirely separate entities, and which I am only beginning to get into.  I am talking about the split between the two, where one side wants to make the other responsible.  Also, whether it was diabetes discovered while you were in or a slipped disc playing a game during PT on a carrier deck, if it didn&#039;t exist before you signed your life to service then it is the military&#039;s responsibility to take care of it, no matter what they tell you (because someone will tell you otherwise unless you fight for it).  These medical professionals are being pressured to turn away people with disabilities and illnesses and battle wounds that we can&#039;t see and easily diagnose in the name of the bottom line of a budget.  I am so very happy for the service members who get their med boards successfully handled prior to separating, because it should NOT be up to the VA to sort this out.  The military needs to step up here and care for these troops as well...

One of the biggest issues I have with this is that giving a lower diagnosis in the name of a tighter budget is going to set up a veteran for a difficult time getting the proper care (as I can attest to w/ my mental health only regimen that was forced on me) after separation.  You shouldn&#039;t have to fight so hard to get the correct diagnosis, especially when doctors have already told you what is wrong with you.

Leelee: I think I said that 20% gets you a one time payment, because there are two magic numbers: 30 will get you monthly payments and 80 gets you &quot;medical retirement&quot;, which is what I said in the OP.  

And yes, if you get any award form the DoD/military, and then are awarded a VA claim that VA claim first must &lt;i&gt;pay back&lt;/i&gt; the DoD/military for the money they gave you, and then you receive money after that is balanced out.  You also have to go back annually to be re-evaluated just to make sure you are still disabled, and your rating can change at any time.

Everyone here who mentioned a loved one, thank them, as a sibling in arms, for their service (K, Electrician&#039;s Mate, Second Class.  :D  He would have been a Second Class Petty Officer, no?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vesta, Kaninchenzero, and Leelee:</p>
<p>It is worlds different with a physical disability that you can point to and say &#8220;See?&#8221;, because the doctors are more likely to believe you (general &#8220;you&#8221;).  If there is a blood test or a scan for it then it is a lot easier to get support from the doctors in the Active Duty system.  Please note that I am talking specifically here about the DoD side, not the DoVA side, which is two entirely separate entities, and which I am only beginning to get into.  I am talking about the split between the two, where one side wants to make the other responsible.  Also, whether it was diabetes discovered while you were in or a slipped disc playing a game during PT on a carrier deck, if it didn&#8217;t exist before you signed your life to service then it is the military&#8217;s responsibility to take care of it, no matter what they tell you (because someone will tell you otherwise unless you fight for it).  These medical professionals are being pressured to turn away people with disabilities and illnesses and battle wounds that we can&#8217;t see and easily diagnose in the name of the bottom line of a budget.  I am so very happy for the service members who get their med boards successfully handled prior to separating, because it should NOT be up to the VA to sort this out.  The military needs to step up here and care for these troops as well&#8230;</p>
<p>One of the biggest issues I have with this is that giving a lower diagnosis in the name of a tighter budget is going to set up a veteran for a difficult time getting the proper care (as I can attest to w/ my mental health only regimen that was forced on me) after separation.  You shouldn&#8217;t have to fight so hard to get the correct diagnosis, especially when doctors have already told you what is wrong with you.</p>
<p>Leelee: I think I said that 20% gets you a one time payment, because there are two magic numbers: 30 will get you monthly payments and 80 gets you &#8220;medical retirement&#8221;, which is what I said in the OP.  </p>
<p>And yes, if you get any award form the DoD/military, and then are awarded a VA claim that VA claim first must <i>pay back</i> the DoD/military for the money they gave you, and then you receive money after that is balanced out.  You also have to go back annually to be re-evaluated just to make sure you are still disabled, and your rating can change at any time.</p>
<p>Everyone here who mentioned a loved one, thank them, as a sibling in arms, for their service (K, Electrician&#8217;s Mate, Second Class.  <img src='http://disabledfeminists.com/fwd/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   He would have been a Second Class Petty Officer, no?)</p>
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		<title>By: thetroubleis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thetroubleis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing on this topic. My brother just when to basic this month, so this topic is of a great deal of interest to me and no something I had really thought about before.
.-= thetroubleis´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://thetroubleisme.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/on-work/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;On work.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing on this topic. My brother just when to basic this month, so this topic is of a great deal of interest to me and no something I had really thought about before.<br />
.-= thetroubleis´s last blog ..<a href="http://thetroubleisme.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/on-work/" rel="nofollow">On work.</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: LeeLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad retired from the AF with 100% disability, and got all of his health care at military facilities or local hospitals with CHAMPUS (the predecessor of TRICARE) footing the bill. My husband was medboarded out of the Army with 20% - he does receive a monthly stipend at 20%. I think it&#039;s lower than 20% gets the one-time payout. At a higher level, it&#039;s medical retirement, which is more like conventional retirement. He got severance pay from the Army, and his monthly stipend &quot;repays&quot; that for a few years, and then he&#039;ll actually receive the check. We&#039;ve had decent luck with the VA system for his healthcare, but we&#039;ve lived in DC and Chicago, where the facilities are OK. It&#039;s not his primary care, though, as he is a US Army civilian now. His injuries are service-connected and he had combat injuries previously, which carries a bit more capital in the medboard process.

The process and support structures during the process varies wildly from command to command. My husband was on the General&#039;s staff of a division headquarters element, so he had some big guns (and names) watching over his packet. Not everyone is so fortunate. We also knew the system well, and our liaison knew that, so she was extra-vigilant with us, because she knew we could raise holy hell and someone would listen. 

We *shouldn&#039;t* have been so fortunate - that&#039;s a huge indication that something is amiss. I do think the docs are under tremendous pressure - and the civilian ones are fleeing the system. I don&#039;t blame them. 

I do miss my Tricare, though. Managing a genetic connective tissue disorder, even with good federal employees&#039; insurance, is breaking my piggy bank. I had two MRIs tonight - I have sticker shock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad retired from the AF with 100% disability, and got all of his health care at military facilities or local hospitals with CHAMPUS (the predecessor of TRICARE) footing the bill. My husband was medboarded out of the Army with 20% &#8211; he does receive a monthly stipend at 20%. I think it&#8217;s lower than 20% gets the one-time payout. At a higher level, it&#8217;s medical retirement, which is more like conventional retirement. He got severance pay from the Army, and his monthly stipend &#8220;repays&#8221; that for a few years, and then he&#8217;ll actually receive the check. We&#8217;ve had decent luck with the VA system for his healthcare, but we&#8217;ve lived in DC and Chicago, where the facilities are OK. It&#8217;s not his primary care, though, as he is a US Army civilian now. His injuries are service-connected and he had combat injuries previously, which carries a bit more capital in the medboard process.</p>
<p>The process and support structures during the process varies wildly from command to command. My husband was on the General&#8217;s staff of a division headquarters element, so he had some big guns (and names) watching over his packet. Not everyone is so fortunate. We also knew the system well, and our liaison knew that, so she was extra-vigilant with us, because she knew we could raise holy hell and someone would listen. </p>
<p>We *shouldn&#8217;t* have been so fortunate &#8211; that&#8217;s a huge indication that something is amiss. I do think the docs are under tremendous pressure &#8211; and the civilian ones are fleeing the system. I don&#8217;t blame them. </p>
<p>I do miss my Tricare, though. Managing a genetic connective tissue disorder, even with good federal employees&#8217; insurance, is breaking my piggy bank. I had two MRIs tonight &#8211; I have sticker shock.</p>
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		<title>By: kaninchenzero</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaninchenzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brother was an... Electrician&#039;s Mate Second?  I think?  When he and the Navy parted ways due to medical reasons -- he may have a degenerative disc condition, though he insists he just damaged it being all athletic.  The last injury involved volleyball and a carrier flight deck.  :p

I don&#039;t think he got an award (yeah, it&#039;s an ugly construction but the idea that people with disabilities have won something when we get assistance is very common) on his separation from the Navy but he reports that the VA has been mostly helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother was an&#8230; Electrician&#8217;s Mate Second?  I think?  When he and the Navy parted ways due to medical reasons &#8212; he may have a degenerative disc condition, though he insists he just damaged it being all athletic.  The last injury involved volleyball and a carrier flight deck.  :p</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he got an award (yeah, it&#8217;s an ugly construction but the idea that people with disabilities have won something when we get assistance is very common) on his separation from the Navy but he reports that the VA has been mostly helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing about this important topic. I look forward to learning more about it.
.-= Rosemary´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://sophy.livejournal.com/1213488.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Glee and Beer&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing about this important topic. I look forward to learning more about it.<br />
.-= Rosemary´s last blog ..<a href="http://sophy.livejournal.com/1213488.html" rel="nofollow">Glee and Beer</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: vesta44</title>
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		<dc:creator>vesta44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband spent 20 years and 20 days in the Navy. He found out he had type 2 diabetes when the Navy did his physical 6 months before discharge and took him off his ship (can&#039;t serve on board a ship if you&#039;re diabetic). So he did his last 6 months on shore duty. He had other disabilities besides the diabetes - carpal tunnel in both wrists, partial deafness in one ear, arthritis in his knees and both feet (I guess the diabetes is considered a service-related disability if you didn&#039;t have it when you enlisted but get it before you&#039;re discharged or retire). 
He was an HT1, and rated at 50% disabled when he retired 14 years ago, that has increased to 90% in the last couple of years (he&#039;s had a couple of compensation and pension reviews as his condition changes/worsens). He&#039;s going in to have his left knee replaced some time in the next month or so, and he needs to have carpal tunnel surgery on his left hand, so those surgeries will probably change his disability rating again (to 100%).
He hasn&#039;t had any problems with his care at the VA as long as he makes it to his appointments (and if he can&#039;t make it to one, he gets in to see them on time anyway as long as we call and reschedule as soon as they send us notification of an appointment, which is usually a month in advance). And because he&#039;s at least 50% disabled and lives 50 miles or more from a VA facility, he gets travel pay when he drives to his doctor&#039;s appointments.
He&#039;s been lucky. There are a lot of veterans that haven&#039;t had it as easy with the VA.
.-= vesta44´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://bigfatdelicious.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-kitteh.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New kitteh&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband spent 20 years and 20 days in the Navy. He found out he had type 2 diabetes when the Navy did his physical 6 months before discharge and took him off his ship (can&#8217;t serve on board a ship if you&#8217;re diabetic). So he did his last 6 months on shore duty. He had other disabilities besides the diabetes &#8211; carpal tunnel in both wrists, partial deafness in one ear, arthritis in his knees and both feet (I guess the diabetes is considered a service-related disability if you didn&#8217;t have it when you enlisted but get it before you&#8217;re discharged or retire).<br />
He was an HT1, and rated at 50% disabled when he retired 14 years ago, that has increased to 90% in the last couple of years (he&#8217;s had a couple of compensation and pension reviews as his condition changes/worsens). He&#8217;s going in to have his left knee replaced some time in the next month or so, and he needs to have carpal tunnel surgery on his left hand, so those surgeries will probably change his disability rating again (to 100%).<br />
He hasn&#8217;t had any problems with his care at the VA as long as he makes it to his appointments (and if he can&#8217;t make it to one, he gets in to see them on time anyway as long as we call and reschedule as soon as they send us notification of an appointment, which is usually a month in advance). And because he&#8217;s at least 50% disabled and lives 50 miles or more from a VA facility, he gets travel pay when he drives to his doctor&#8217;s appointments.<br />
He&#8217;s been lucky. There are a lot of veterans that haven&#8217;t had it as easy with the VA.<br />
.-= vesta44´s last blog ..<a href="http://bigfatdelicious.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-kitteh.html" rel="nofollow">New kitteh</a> =-.</p>
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