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	<title>Comments on: Ableist Word Profile: What&#8217;s Your Damage?</title>
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		<title>By: Alden</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/14/ableist-word-profile-whats-your-damage/#comment-10315</link>
		<dc:creator>Alden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also gonna toss in a great big &#039;thank you&#039; for this AWP series. As both someone trying to be as respectful as possible to those around me, and someone with an interest in the backgrounds of words and language, this series is a double hit of awesome to me. Even if I&#039;m about six months late to the party. ^_^

As for the discussion... I think in most cases like these, I&#039;d moreso lean towards &quot;What&#039;s up?&quot;, especially with a friend. It&#039;s less accusatory, more informal (and likely to keep things friendlier) and gives room for more general answers. I agree, &quot;What&#039;s your damage?&quot; is definitely ableist, and at very least shutting-down; typically, I think it&#039;s mostly associated with people trying to be &#039;edgy&#039; and cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also gonna toss in a great big &#8216;thank you&#8217; for this AWP series. As both someone trying to be as respectful as possible to those around me, and someone with an interest in the backgrounds of words and language, this series is a double hit of awesome to me. Even if I&#8217;m about six months late to the party. ^_^</p>
<p>As for the discussion&#8230; I think in most cases like these, I&#8217;d moreso lean towards &#8220;What&#8217;s up?&#8221;, especially with a friend. It&#8217;s less accusatory, more informal (and likely to keep things friendlier) and gives room for more general answers. I agree, &#8220;What&#8217;s your damage?&#8221; is definitely ableist, and at very least shutting-down; typically, I think it&#8217;s mostly associated with people trying to be &#8216;edgy&#8217; and cool.</p>
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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/14/ableist-word-profile-whats-your-damage/#comment-3364</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we discussed above, there&#039;s a significant difference between &quot;what is the problem with...&quot; or &quot;I see that you seem to be having a problem...&quot; etc. 

But &quot;what&#039;s your problem&quot; is used, most commonly, in a very dismissive way and it does carry some ableist overtones, at least to my neuroatypical brain. To me it sounds like &quot;there&#039;s obviously a problem &lt;em&gt;with you&lt;/em&gt; if you do not think the way I do.&quot; I read &quot;what&#039;s your problem&quot; and &quot;what&#039;s your damage&quot; in the same way. Some of the people upthread do too. Some don&#039;t. 

And that&#039;s fine. As we&#039;ve said over and over again, people are not obligated to agree with everything in this series. But it&#039;s helpful when they disagree with something more substantive than &quot;I disagree&quot; and actually articulate the points of their disagreement more thoroughly, because often people find that when they articulate why they feel so resistant, they find out something interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we discussed above, there&#8217;s a significant difference between &#8220;what is the problem with&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;I see that you seem to be having a problem&#8230;&#8221; etc. </p>
<p>But &#8220;what&#8217;s your problem&#8221; is used, most commonly, in a very dismissive way and it does carry some ableist overtones, at least to my neuroatypical brain. To me it sounds like &#8220;there&#8217;s obviously a problem <em>with you</em> if you do not think the way I do.&#8221; I read &#8220;what&#8217;s your problem&#8221; and &#8220;what&#8217;s your damage&#8221; in the same way. Some of the people upthread do too. Some don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s fine. As we&#8217;ve said over and over again, people are not obligated to agree with everything in this series. But it&#8217;s helpful when they disagree with something more substantive than &#8220;I disagree&#8221; and actually articulate the points of their disagreement more thoroughly, because often people find that when they articulate why they feel so resistant, they find out something interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaitlyn</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/14/ableist-word-profile-whats-your-damage/#comment-3362</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaitlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this - what&#039;s &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; problem? (Why don&#039;t you find out *ist jokes funny? What&#039;s your problem?)

vs

Seeing a friend upset and asking, &quot;Hey, what&#039;s the problem/trouble? What&#039;s going on?&quot;

One is engaging and sympathetic, the other is dismissive and most likely cruel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this &#8211; what&#8217;s <em>your</em> problem? (Why don&#8217;t you find out *ist jokes funny? What&#8217;s your problem?)</p>
<p>vs</p>
<p>Seeing a friend upset and asking, &#8220;Hey, what&#8217;s the problem/trouble? What&#8217;s going on?&#8221;</p>
<p>One is engaging and sympathetic, the other is dismissive and most likely cruel.</p>
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		<title>By: meloukhia</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/14/ableist-word-profile-whats-your-damage/#comment-3356</link>
		<dc:creator>meloukhia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrie, we actually had a very lengthy discussion about this in comments, as you can see above; after taking a mosey through there, perhaps you&#039;ll have a better idea of why some people regard &quot;what&#039;s your problem&quot; as ableist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie, we actually had a very lengthy discussion about this in comments, as you can see above; after taking a mosey through there, perhaps you&#8217;ll have a better idea of why some people regard &#8220;what&#8217;s your problem&#8221; as ableist.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/14/ableist-word-profile-whats-your-damage/#comment-3351</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely do not use the damage/trauma language, because it is abundantly clear that it is ableist. 

But the idea that &quot;what&#039;s your problem&quot; is ableist is, frankly, imo, silly. It might be rude.

But there is an important difference between being rude and being ableist and I don&#039;t think any productive gain can be made from confusing the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely do not use the damage/trauma language, because it is abundantly clear that it is ableist. </p>
<p>But the idea that &#8220;what&#8217;s your problem&#8221; is ableist is, frankly, imo, silly. It might be rude.</p>
<p>But there is an important difference between being rude and being ableist and I don&#8217;t think any productive gain can be made from confusing the two.</p>
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		<title>By: chelsea</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/14/ableist-word-profile-whats-your-damage/#comment-2463</link>
		<dc:creator>chelsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never heard someone say &quot;What&#039;s your damage,&quot; but I have heard &quot;What&#039;s THE damage,&quot; in reference to paying a bill. As in, what&#039;s the damage to my bank account? Thoughts on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never heard someone say &#8220;What&#8217;s your damage,&#8221; but I have heard &#8220;What&#8217;s THE damage,&#8221; in reference to paying a bill. As in, what&#8217;s the damage to my bank account? Thoughts on this?</p>
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		<title>By: bug_girl</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/14/ableist-word-profile-whats-your-damage/#comment-1430</link>
		<dc:creator>bug_girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this just brought back a very intense memory....about 1 year post injury, I was struggling with a very complex aerobics routine that I just could not follow.

The instructor *meant* to be encouraging when she said &quot;Come on! You can do this! It&#039;s not like you&#039;re brain-damaged or anything!&quot;

I wish I had handled it better, but I basically said &quot;Actually, I AM brain-damaged, you spandex-clad #$#!&quot;, flipped her the bird, and stomped out of class.

That was almost 17 years ago, and it still stings. And I have never set foot in a gym class since, for fear of the same thing happening.   Sigh.
.-= bug_girl´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://membracid.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/yay-wait-oh/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yay! Wait…oh.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this just brought back a very intense memory&#8230;.about 1 year post injury, I was struggling with a very complex aerobics routine that I just could not follow.</p>
<p>The instructor *meant* to be encouraging when she said &#8220;Come on! You can do this! It&#8217;s not like you&#8217;re brain-damaged or anything!&#8221;</p>
<p>I wish I had handled it better, but I basically said &#8220;Actually, I AM brain-damaged, you spandex-clad #$#!&#8221;, flipped her the bird, and stomped out of class.</p>
<p>That was almost 17 years ago, and it still stings. And I have never set foot in a gym class since, for fear of the same thing happening.   Sigh.<br />
.-= bug_girl´s last blog ..<a href="http://membracid.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/yay-wait-oh/" rel="nofollow">Yay! Wait…oh.</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Broggly</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/14/ableist-word-profile-whats-your-damage/#comment-802</link>
		<dc:creator>Broggly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My friend used to ask her 3-year-old, whenever the child was throwing a tantrum, “What’s your malfunction?!”&quot;

Ah yes, the Full Metal Jacket school of parenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My friend used to ask her 3-year-old, whenever the child was throwing a tantrum, “What’s your malfunction?!”&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah yes, the Full Metal Jacket school of parenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra Erin</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/14/ableist-word-profile-whats-your-damage/#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandra Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the easiest way to explain the problem with &quot;What&#039;s your problem?&quot; is to rephrase it the same way that all three phrases can be rephrased: 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;What is wrong with you?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

If there genuinely seems to be something that is upsetting someone, or some kind of disconnect or miscommunication is going on that you can&#039;t put your finger on but someone else is upset, I think &quot;What&#039;s bothering you?&quot; or &quot;What&#039;s the matter?&quot; are both less ableist and less accusatory. Ableism aside, I don&#039;t think people very often say &quot;What&#039;s your problem?&quot; because they&#039;re in a mind to solve anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the easiest way to explain the problem with &#8220;What&#8217;s your problem?&#8221; is to rephrase it the same way that all three phrases can be rephrased: </p>
<p><em>&#8220;What is wrong with you?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>If there genuinely seems to be something that is upsetting someone, or some kind of disconnect or miscommunication is going on that you can&#8217;t put your finger on but someone else is upset, I think &#8220;What&#8217;s bothering you?&#8221; or &#8220;What&#8217;s the matter?&#8221; are both less ableist and less accusatory. Ableism aside, I don&#8217;t think people very often say &#8220;What&#8217;s your problem?&#8221; because they&#8217;re in a mind to solve anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha_feather</title>
		<link>http://disabledfeminists.com/2009/10/14/ableist-word-profile-whats-your-damage/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasha_feather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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